"No mines, no nets!" for RUb 1.43

Gizzmoe · 08-09-05, 05:01 AM

This mod removes all minefields and subnets from RUb 1.43:
http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/files/N...for_Rub1.43.7z (76 kByte)

And this one only removes mines and nets around friendly harbours:
http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/files/N...for_Rub1.43.7z (81 KByte)

Unpack it to your main sh3 folder, overwrite the old file. You need 7-Zip (www.7-zip.org) or the latest version of WinRAR (www.rarlabs.com) to unpack it.

DonÂ´t add this mod during a patrol, wait until you are back at port, then apply it.

stratege · 08-09-05, 05:12 AM

Very interresting.

How to just delete the mine ??

This may fix the pbs i uncter with cameras ==> see my post here[/url]

The Avon Lady · 08-09-05, 05:20 AM

Does this delete the original dyanamic campaign's mines and nets, too, or only those introduced by RUb?

Gizzmoe · 08-09-05, 05:25 AM

I never had sound problems related to mines. If you like to remove the mines and keep the nets use the Mission Editor or a text editor.

Gizzmoe · 08-09-05, 05:29 AM

Avon, I have removed all mines and nets from campaign_scr.mis that came with RUb 1.43, nothing is left...

The Avon Lady · 08-09-05, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Avon, I have removed all mines and nets from campaign_scr.mis that came with RUb 1.43, nothing is left...

Now my question is is this good or bad?

Are all the nexts now gone from enemy ports? That's not good, is it?

I don't mind if they've disappeared from friendly harbors but removing those that originally came with the game is not a good thing, IMO, especially when the whole purpose of the RUb mod is to add - not detract - from the game's potential realism.

Or are the game's original mines/nets definitions in another file altogether?

Gizzmoe · 08-09-05, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Now my question is is this good or bad? Are all the nexts now gone from enemy ports? That's not good, is it?

My experience is that mines and nets are a major pain in the ass for the AI, if they encounter them strange things happen. SH3Â´s pathfinding algorithm canÂ´t cope with it. The current implemention of mines and nets has nothing to do with realism.

Quote:

Or are the game's original mines/nets definitions in another file altogether?

No, they are all in campaign_scr.mis.

Besides, Avon, you donÂ´t have to use this mod if you donÂ´t like it!

The Avon Lady · 08-09-05, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Besides, Avon, you donÂ´t have to use this mod if you donÂ´t like it!

Well what I would NOT like is mines and nets in friendly harbors. I don't know if RUb 1.43 added those.

What I don't want is their removal from enemy waters.

I just needed to understand exactly what your mod does. Thanks.

Gizzmoe · 08-09-05, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Well what I would NOT like is mines and nets in friendly harbors.

No problem, dear!

HereÂ´s a version without mines and nets around friendly harbours, all other mines and nets are still there:
http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/files/N...for_Rub1.43.7z

The Avon Lady · 08-09-05, 06:56 AM

It pays to pester!

Thanks!

The Avon Lady · 08-09-05, 07:30 AM

Now I'm a little confused again!

The RUb's ReadMe states:

data\Campaigns\Campaign\Campaign_SCR.mis: this file includes minefields and an escort out of / into the port at the start and end of each patrol. If this is too burdensome for the player, we've included an alternate file with no minefields so that following the escort is optional. To remove minefields, just delete the "Campaign_SCR.mis" file from the mod and rename "No_Minefield_Campaign_SCR.mis" so that it becomes "Campaign_SCR.mis".

So, does RUb's alternate file make your second file redundant? :hmm:

Gizzmoe · 08-09-05, 07:36 AM

It would make my first file redundant, but my RUb 1.43 has no "No_Minefield_Campaign_SCR.mis".

spirit32m · 08-09-05, 07:51 AM

Avon Lady. I was looking for the "No_Minefield_Campaign_SCR.mis" that was mentioned in RUB's readme and I couldn't find it. I wrote to Berry and he related to me that he had forgotten to remove that section out of the readme. He said that since he removed the Harbor Traffic mod from RUB there are not two versions of the SCR file in the campaign folder.

Gizzmoe · 08-09-05, 07:55 AM

Thanks for the information, Spirit.

Egan · 08-09-05, 12:06 PM

All of the minefields in 1.43 were done in such a way that they will not cause problems for the AI.

Not the case for the player, though...

08-09-05, 05:01 AM	#1
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	"No mines, no nets!" for RUb 1.43 This mod removes all minefields and subnets from RUb 1.43: http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/files/N...for_Rub1.43.7z (76 kByte) And this one only removes mines and nets around friendly harbours: http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/files/N...for_Rub1.43.7z (81 KByte) Unpack it to your main sh3 folder, overwrite the old file. You need 7-Zip (www.7-zip.org) or the latest version of WinRAR (www.rarlabs.com) to unpack it. DonÂ´t add this mod during a patrol, wait until you are back at port, then apply it.

08-09-05, 05:12 AM	#2
stratege Sparky Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FRANCE - Grenoble Posts: 152 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very interresting. How to just delete the mine ?? This may fix the pbs i uncter with cameras ==> see my post here[/url] __________________ Too many alias ... stratege=clarkfromrainbow

08-09-05, 05:20 AM	#3
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Does this delete the original dyanamic campaign's mines and nets, too, or only those introduced by RUb? __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

08-09-05, 06:56 AM	#10
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It pays to pester! Thanks! __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

08-09-05, 07:30 AM	#11
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Now I'm a little confused again! The RUb's ReadMe states: data\Campaigns\Campaign\Campaign_SCR.mis: this file includes minefields and an escort out of / into the port at the start and end of each patrol. If this is too burdensome for the player, we've included an alternate file with no minefields so that following the escort is optional. To remove minefields, just delete the "Campaign_SCR.mis" file from the mod and rename "No_Minefield_Campaign_SCR.mis" so that it becomes "Campaign_SCR.mis". So, does RUb's alternate file make your second file redundant? :hmm: __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

08-09-05, 05:25 AM	#4
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I never had sound problems related to mines. If you like to remove the mines and keep the nets use the Mission Editor or a text editor.

08-09-05, 05:29 AM	#5
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Avon, I have removed all mines and nets from campaign_scr.mis that came with RUb 1.43, nothing is left...

08-09-05, 07:36 AM	#12
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It would make my first file redundant, but my RUb 1.43 has no "No_Minefield_Campaign_SCR.mis".

08-09-05, 07:51 AM	#13
spirit32m Nub Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Avon Lady. I was looking for the "No_Minefield_Campaign_SCR.mis" that was mentioned in RUB's readme and I couldn't find it. I wrote to Berry and he related to me that he had forgotten to remove that section out of the readme. He said that since he removed the Harbor Traffic mod from RUB there are not two versions of the SCR file in the campaign folder.

08-09-05, 07:55 AM	#14
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the information, Spirit.

08-09-05, 12:06 PM	#15
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	All of the minefields in 1.43 were done in such a way that they will not cause problems for the AI. Not the case for the player, though...