More reasons not to buy the F35

Skybird · 03-02-25, 07:21 PM

mapuc · 03-02-25, 09:49 PM

HA! The authorities here have been spoken highly about this F35 fighter jet how great it is despite the price for each of them.

Denmark decided to buy 27.

I still don't understand why Denmark didn't buy the JAS 39 Gripen.

Markus

Eichhörnchen · 03-03-25, 06:15 AM

I hope that our procurement officials see this video

Eisenwurst · 03-03-25, 07:00 AM

Damn

I just bought one.

Skybird · 03-03-25, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Eisenwurst

Damn

I just bought one.

Trouble with the wife...?

Wives' cant fly, so safely pick an A-10 instead.

Jimbuna · 03-03-25, 10:17 AM

Potentially most worrying.

Catfish · 03-03-25, 01:21 PM

But they can fly so nice in formation, automatically

Seriously, I woulf have waited and pushed the development of an own or at least european fighter system. No one has seen the F35 performing in combat, also the use of scamming devices used in Ukraine has established that even EMP hardened electronic systems are not safe.

mapuc · 03-03-25, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

But they can fly so nice in formation, automatically

Seriously, I woulf have waited and pushed the development of an own or at least european fighter system. No one has seen the F35 performing in combat, also the use of scamming devices used in Ukraine has established that even EMP hardened electronic systems are not safe.

They have been in combat-When Israel attacked Iran.

Markus

Catfish · 03-03-25, 02:11 PM

^ You are correct, Sir

Skybird · 03-03-25, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Seriously, I woulf have waited and pushed the development of an own or at least european fighter system.

Time pressure, they said, to maintain the "nukleare Teilhabe". The existing license for the German carrier aircraft runs out, the Eurofighter'S licensing was endlessly delayed by the americans to make us buy their F-35 (r F-18, I am not certain wether the Hornet was also offered). The French-German cooperation on a new plane has collapsed or is close to collapse. A new fighter design is too many years away. 10+ years.

There is the Gripen and the Rafale and the Eurofighter. Which are the way to go regarding conventional armed fighters. I think the nukleare Teilhabe is sooner or later a thing of the past anyway. I think a new major update version for the Eurofighter is in devklopment, and far advanced in progress, I think I red that. We should go with that. The price of the EF drops the more are beign ordered.

We need to push the numbers. Numbers matter. Lesson from Ukraine.

Platapus · 03-03-25, 05:31 PM

40,000 per flight hour?

Yikes

Skybird · 03-04-25, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

They have been in combat-When Israel attacked Iran.

Markus

If I understood it correctly, their F35s dont phone back home to the US and Lockheed all the time. When they got delivered, they ripped out quite some of the electronics and replaced them with their own.
Easier said than done, I would assume.

Surprisngly, the F35 is cheaper than the Eurofighter. Around roughly 80-85 million verusus 120-130 million. Howeverm the maintetance and lifecycle costs must be counted as wellm, and I would assume here the Eurofighter has an advanatge, the F35 is said to eb tricky, When i red abotu it yesterday, the website said that right at this time 49% of the American F35s are grounded, only 51%are operational.

Jimbuna · 03-04-25, 11:27 AM

Should never have retired the Spitfire

Skybird · 03-04-25, 12:04 PM

^ At high flight altitude, yes. In medium and low altitudes, the FW190.

Dargo · 03-12-25, 03:20 PM

Europe has the jets, so Germany go French and buy only European.

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