Fires on ship

Shadowblade · 01-20-25, 08:05 AM

Does causing more fires on ship (burning cargo, carried vehicles, warplanes, etc) do any extra damage over time to ship structure from fire?
Or is the fire just cosmetic effect there?

kaizerhund10 · 01-20-25, 05:31 PM

anybody know the name of that soldier? any bio on him? his pic is shown alot on ww2 history stuff

Shadowblade · 01-20-25, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kaizerhund10

anybody know the name of that soldier? any bio on him? his pic is shown alot on ww2 history stuff

I found two possible names of this soldier:
- Hans Tragarsky
- Heinz Mäger (Maeger)

kaizerhund10 · 01-21-25, 02:32 PM

awesome i will look it up, wonder if he survived i will find out thanks

Mister_M · 01-21-25, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowblade

Does causing more fires on ship (burning cargo, carried vehicles, warplanes, etc) do any extra damage over time to ship structure from fire?
Or is the fire just cosmetic effect there?

Only cosmetic. But a modder managed to make the fire cause damage (his name was The Dark Wraith IIRC)...

Edit: oh yeah, here it is: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=180921

Shadowblade · 01-21-25, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kaizerhund10

awesome i will look it up, wonder if he survived i will find out thanks

you are welcome

yes, he survived the war

Shadowblade · 01-21-25, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister_M

Only cosmetic. But a modder managed to make the fire cause damage (his name was The Dark Wraith IIRC)...

Edit: oh yeah, here it is: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=180921

thank you, this mod looks very promising. I wish I knew about it sooner. I must try it.
Hope it works well with GWX mod.

Captain Drastic · 01-21-25, 09:41 PM

I don't know about this, it seems to me that way you could sink a ship by shooting up deck cargo with the flak guns, which is a kind of cheesy way to get a kill. Still, it's just a small .Dat file for the Library. I'll probably just go ahead and put it in there while I do more testing. What can go wrong? Hahaha..

The Rbs_SH4_effects_GWX_30_71 mod has secondary explosions and fires which seem to show fire spreading below decks and it appears as if more damage is being done. Whenever I see the spreading fires, I'm pretty sure the ship is going down. They even go out one by one as the compartments flood.
Also, there's more damage effects which add a lot of realism, bodies and debris flying and landing in the water, etc.
Rbs_SH4_effects_GWX_30_71- A spectacular mod and a must have for GWX.

Shadowblade · 01-22-25, 02:28 AM

@Captain Drastic : I was more looking for a way how to speed up the sinking of the damaged ship by causing more fire onboard.

And it was usually strange sight on ships with raging fires, with holes below waterline which could burn forever just because the fire is just cosmetic effect....

Fifi · 01-22-25, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowblade

thank you, this mod looks very promising. I wish I knew about it sooner. I must try it.
Hope it works well with GWX mod.

I don’t know for GWX, but this mod by TDW has bad side effect on smokes in NYGM … it makes the smokes suddenly totally disappearing when ships are sinking below water level (instead of progressively vanished)
I had to delete the ships part of mod, and keep only the planes part… furthermore wasn’t really interested by a kill each time a ship is set on fire, even with a delay

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-22-25, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

I don’t know for GWX, but this mod by TDW has bad side effect on smokes in NYGM … it makes the smokes suddenly totally disappearing when ships are sinking below water level (instead of progressively vanished)
I had to delete the ships part of mod, and keep only the planes part… furthermore wasn’t really interested by a kill each time a ship is set on fire, even with a delay

GWX does not use this mod, nor do we have plans to, especially because of the last reason you listed.

Hebe Vollmaus · 01-22-25, 03:19 PM

'Problem' solved in jear 2017 by LGN1.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=169

Mister_M · 01-23-25, 04:03 AM

What can be done (with tweaked values):

Mister_M · 01-23-25, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

wasn’t really interested by a kill each time a ship is set on fire, even with a delay

It would be possible to limit the extent of damage caused by the fire, to simulate the fact that the crew put out the fire.

But the problem is that it would be impossible to set the same zone on fire again...

Shadowblade · 01-23-25, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister_M

It would be possible to limit the extent of damage caused by the fire, to simulate the fact that the crew put out the fire.

But the problem is that it would be impossible to set the same zone on fire again...

well, if it would be lone ship attacked by uboat which would start shelling her, ship crew would probably abandon ship so there would be nobody to put out the fire

01-20-25, 08:05 AM	#1
Shadowblade Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 700 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Fires on ship Does causing more fires on ship (burning cargo, carried vehicles, warplanes, etc) do any extra damage over time to ship structure from fire? Or is the fire just cosmetic effect there? __________________ Kapitänleutnant Vlad von Carstein - U-Flotilla Saltzwedel - U-123, Type IXB SH3 GWX 3.0

01-21-25, 09:41 PM	#8
Captain Drastic Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 129 Downloads: 643 Uploads: 0	I don't know about this, it seems to me that way you could sink a ship by shooting up deck cargo with the flak guns, which is a kind of cheesy way to get a kill. Still, it's just a small .Dat file for the Library. I'll probably just go ahead and put it in there while I do more testing. What can go wrong? Hahaha.. The Rbs_SH4_effects_GWX_30_71 mod has secondary explosions and fires which seem to show fire spreading below decks and it appears as if more damage is being done. Whenever I see the spreading fires, I'm pretty sure the ship is going down. They even go out one by one as the compartments flood. Also, there's more damage effects which add a lot of realism, bodies and debris flying and landing in the water, etc. Rbs_SH4_effects_GWX_30_71- A spectacular mod and a must have for GWX. Last edited by Captain Drastic; 01-22-25 at 12:05 AM.

01-22-25, 02:28 AM	#9
Shadowblade Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 700 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	@Captain Drastic : I was more looking for a way how to speed up the sinking of the damaged ship by causing more fire onboard. And it was usually strange sight on ships with raging fires, with holes below waterline which could burn forever just because the fire is just cosmetic effect.... __________________ Kapitänleutnant Vlad von Carstein - U-Flotilla Saltzwedel - U-123, Type IXB SH3 GWX 3.0

01-20-25, 05:31 PM	#2
kaizerhund10 Loader Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: costa rica Posts: 82 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	anybody know the name of that soldier? any bio on him? his pic is shown alot on ww2 history stuff

01-21-25, 02:32 PM	#4
kaizerhund10 Loader Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: costa rica Posts: 82 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	awesome i will look it up, wonder if he survived i will find out thanks

01-22-25, 03:19 PM	#12
Hebe Vollmaus Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 269 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 1	'Problem' solved in jear 2017 by LGN1. https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=169

01-23-25, 04:03 AM	#13
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 925 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	What can be done (with tweaked values):