Germany’s starts a Kebab war!

[Rockstar]

Germany has decided to challenge Turkey’s protected status claim for döner kebab.

Turkey attempt to give the dish the same protected EU status as Spain’s Serrano ham or Neapolitan pizza started in April.

Germany also claims to be the birthplace of the dish and will have 6 months to find a compromise with Turkey. If that doesn’t happen, the European Commission will rule on the dispute

[Skybird]

It was introduced by Turks living in Germany, the only dispute there is is about in which city it came first.
Turkey claims it for propaganda reasons only. Or in Chaplin's great word "Stonk!"

Anyway, I dont care, I dont eat it. The meat spears come from factories who are dubious, imo. Who knows what they put on the spears. I only know what in theory should be on it - and what not.

Its also hilariously expensive now, like a major lunch in a restaurant. I recall times when it costed 1,80. Now its 7-8 Euros, and more. For that money I already get a small Entrecote (=Ribeye in French cut), or 300gr of frozen lamb. And have no glibbery white bread and no disgustable veggies with it.


Fast food in general has become - healthy. The prices are such that less people buy them, that is good for their health.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Fast food in general has become - healthy. The prices are such that less people buy them, that is good for their health.

I'm surprised there isn't someone taking credit for improved health due to increased prices.

I'm looking forward to shawarma in Thailand for cheap prices. Haven't had a good one since the Pakistani store in Gourock.

[Shadowblade]

typical german food

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Shadowblade

typical german food

Nein typisch essen sind sauerkraut und Schweinefleisch

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Nein typisch essen sind sauerkraut und Schweinefleisch

Markus

No, thats a clichèe. Germans eat sauerkraut not more than anyone else. Most do not like it.

[Shadowblade]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Nein typisch essen sind sauerkraut und Schweinefleisch

Markus

I know, I am just kidding.
But when I was learning to speak German years ago, there was no kebab mentioned.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Shadowblade

I know, I am just kidding.
But when I was learning to speak German years ago, there was no kebab mentioned.

Almost nobody says "Kebab" over here, thats just on the signs and posters. The correct verbal order is "Ein Döner, bitte!"

[Skybird]

https://www-nzz-ch.translate.goog/pa...x_tr_hist=true

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Skybird

No, thats a clichèe. Germans eat sauerkraut not more than anyone else. Most do not like it.

I've always thought with my German roots that I should like German food, but I don't seem to like any of it. I'd think you'd be into fermented foods for the health benefits? Problem is most of the benefits from sauerkraut are destroyed by pasteurization here. Over here sauerkraut that hasn't been pasteurized is as expensive as meat. I've been thinking of making my own instead. I do like sauerkraut with my Carnitas rubbed pork shoulder roast from Aldi, and I'd eat it often that way for the health benefits.

I'm a bit afraid to stink up my entire house with any fermentation process.

[Jimbuna]

I've never had a really good kebab in Turkey whilst there but I have had good ones here in the UK and the Netherlands.

[Skybird]

^ If I would still eat veggies, than fermented like Sauerkraut, Japanese Natto (pfui baaa...) or Korean Kimchi (the far better Sauerkraut...), but only freshly prepared, not industrially processed and pasteurized. But I never had the taste for this stuff, even when I still ate veggies/fruits (which I dont anymore, obviously). Not eating veggies is no loss, but a gain in life quality for me, I'm glad I found the right excuses to get rid of this stuff.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I've never had a really good kebab in Turkey whilst there but I have had good ones here in the UK and the Netherlands.

Yes, the NZZ article I linked explains what the difference is. The Döner as we now know it, with bread and veggies, stems from the 70s, and most likely from Berlin. The Turkish meat speer is not the same, and uses different meat. The German Döner invented by German Turks became more popular by its different taste.


What I dont like about it is that you cnnot see what sorts of meat and wqhat qulaity of meat isbeing used to make the meat rolls. While it is regulated, the business is shady, there are black sheep for sure. I dont like to eat stuff where I cannot conclude on the original quality and the ingredients, especially when it is fish and meat. We have had too many rotten meat scandals, and Döner meat rolls are wonderful to hide waste meat in. Let me see the raw matter, let me smell it.

[Jimbuna]

^ Agreed....I used to help out on occasion/days off work at a friends pizza shop where he also sold kebabs (he is a Turkish national actually) and I have never seen as much oil/grease come off a piece of meat like it would on these kebab meat parcels.

There were also about a dozen different quality grades of kebab depending on what level of quality you were after.

[Skybird]

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