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Old 11-22-23, 09:43 AM   #1
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Default Kennedy Assasination: A very sad 60th anniversary of the death of a sitting president

Today marks the 60th anniversary of the shooting of president Kennedy in Dealy Plaza in Dallas Texas. The Warren Commission concluded that the President was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald.

Cyril Wecht, a Forensic Pathologist who had worked on Kenndey at Parkland Hospital has said the Commission's report is badly flawed. Dr. Wecht concluded there had to be at least two shooters and is not at all convinced that Lee Harvey Oswald was one of the shooters. Oswald had tested negative for a paraffin test meaning Oswald didn't fire a weapon.

https://www.wtae.com/article/kennedy...ctive/45918015

Snipers have sought to recreate the shooting and have collectively said that it wasn't possible to get off three shots with a relatively cheap rifle in a few seconds and score lethal hits as Oswald is purported to do. Jesse brings up some interesting points.



Former Minnesota Governor Jess Ventura, who had been a Navy Seal has publicly said that the shots Oswald is purported to have made were impossible.

What is known is that a sitting president was killed who absolutely didn't want American troops committed to Vietnam. Vice president Johnson took over for Kennedy and committed troops to Vietnam and America had a direct 8 year war in Vietnam and lost 58, 220 American personnel and many others wounded.

How different things might have been had President Kennedy lived. Jack Kennedy's brother " Bobby " Kennedy was killed less than 5 years later on June 6th, 1968 as he was running for President of the U.S.

Decide for yourself if that doesn't scream conspiracy in removing the Kennedy's from further contention in American Politics.


* Edit: I had mistakenly stated that Jesse Ventura had been a NAVY Seal. Jesse Had completed UDT ( Underwater Demolition Teams ) and are considered an Amphibious unit. Because he graduated BUD/S in class 58 in December 1970 and was part of Underwater Demolition Team 12 which became SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team One. His claim of being a SEAL rests on whether one agrees that UDTs and SEALs are one in the same.

My apologies for any confusion.

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Old 11-22-23, 09:50 AM   #2
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Its easy to watch the shooting video and realize there is no way that is a bolt action rifle, its a semi-automatic rifle probably an m14 style sniper rifle.

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Old 11-22-23, 09:58 AM   #3
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Its easy to watch the shooting video and realize there is no way that is a bolt action rifle, its a semi-automatic rifle probably an m14 style sniper rifle.


The weapon purported to have been used in the Kennedy Assination by Oswald was a bolt action, scoped, Mannlicher-Carcano rifle of Italian design in 6.5x52mm caliber, not an M14.
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Its just my opinion

and it wasn't Johnson who was Kennedy's enemy but IKE

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Old 11-22-23, 10:40 AM   #5
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Yes and the Diem assassination and Coup in Vietnam twenty days before is connected. Its all a legacy of these Intelligence and Covert operations departments, agencies, groups etc. that evolved out of WWII that we are afflicted with today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngo_Dinh_Diem
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I doubt the real truth, whatever that is will ever be known.
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Its just my opinion

and it wasn't Johnson who was Kennedy's enemy but IKE


You may well be right on that, too. I really doubt we will ever know for sure about the events of that day.
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As a former KGB said in a documentary

Find the motive behind the assassin and you will find the killer(s)

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I personally know folks who have duplicated Oswalds shots successfully. It certainly is doable with a bolt action rifle, especially by a trained marksman familiar with the weapon.
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Oswald said it best: https://www.commonsenseeasternshore....tion-revisited Bottom LINE: parts of a brain simply do not come to rest on the trunk of a moving limo from a shot(s) fired from behind and above from a warehouse window: ...that comes from shots fired from 'grassy knolls" in front of the limo! I've not changed my opinion since I was a seventh grader.
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It was the Secret Service who shot him by mistake.

Seen this in a documentary.

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Some people desperately want to believe otherwise, but the truth of the matter is JFK was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald and nobody else. You can argue who if anyone put him up to it, the Soviets or the Mob being the two most likely culprits, but like I said earlier it is a completely doable shot from the school book depository for someone with Oswalds marksmanship skills.

His rifle was an Italian Carcano M91/38 chambered for 6.5 x 52 mm rounds.

BTW an M14 is chambered 7.62 x 51 mm. Not the same bullet.
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Some people desperately want to believe otherwise, but the truth of the matter is JFK was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald and nobody else. You can argue who if anyone put him up to it, the Soviets or the Mob being the two most likely culprits, but like I said earlier it is a completely doable shot from the school book depository for someone with Oswalds marksmanship skills.

His rifle was an Italian Carcano M91/38 chambered for 6.5 x 52 mm rounds.

BTW an M14 is chambered 7.62 x 51 mm. Not the same bullet.
Oswald fired the first shot who hit him in the neck. The second shot came from a weapon in front of the limo.
Tried to find this documentary on YT without any luck it was produced by some Australian company.

I say it's plausible

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Some people desperately want to believe otherwise, but the truth of the matter is JFK was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald and nobody else. You can argue who if anyone put him up to it, the Soviets or the Mob being the two most likely culprits, but like I said earlier it is a completely doable shot from the school book depository for someone with Oswalds marksmanship skills.

His rifle was an Italian Carcano M91/38 chambered for 6.5 x 52 mm rounds.

BTW an M14 is chambered 7.62 x 51 mm. Not the same bullet.

As I understand it, a good number of marksmen that have demonstrable records have been unable to duplicate these shots. If as you say these shots have been duplicated, I'm left to wonder why there isn't any record of this. The shots may be possible but not with this cheap bolt action done in only a few seconds.

Aktung had also said that material from JFK was found on the trunk of the limo. The kinetic energy transferred to JFK required to fling his head backwards had to be from the front. I agree with that.

Further, there is the magic bullet that hit JFK and Govenor Connely and ended up in Pristine condition on JFK's gurney. Forensic Pathologist Cyril Wecht has said the same as did the Physicians who treated JFK who saw the forward entrance wounds. They and their families were threatened to keep quiet.

If as you said, there would be no need to threaten anyone. Further, The Secret service, FBI and other agencies had wrapped up their " investigation " mere hours after JFK was killed. This should tell you everything.
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If as you say these shots have been duplicated, I'm left to wonder why there isn't any record of this. The shots may be possible but not with this cheap bolt action done in only a few seconds.
I have seen it done with my own eyes by the 10th Special Forces Sniper Team back in the early 1980's. It was repeated twice by different shooters with that same model rifle as Oswald used.

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Aktung had also said that material from JFK was found on the trunk of the limo. The kinetic energy transferred to JFK required to fling his head backwards had to be from the front. I agree with that
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AK is not a ballistics expert.

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Further, there is the magic bullet that hit JFK and Govenor Connely and ended up in Pristine condition on JFK's gurney. Forensic Pathologist Cyril Wecht has said the same as did the Physicians who treated JFK who saw the forward entrance wounds. They and their families were threatened to keep quiet.

If as you said, there would be no need to threaten anyone. Further, The Secret service, FBI and other agencies had wrapped up their " investigation " mere hours after JFK was killed. This should tell you everything.
The FBI alone conducted 25,000 interviews and ran down 10's of thousands of investigative leads. https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-c...-assassination

Doesn't sound like anything was wrapped up in mere hours.

Believe what you want, i don't expect anyone to change their mind about it but as far as i'm concerned it's just another conspiracy theory much like how 9-11 was supposed to be an inside job.
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