Pacific Patrol Area Map

Rigel44 · 10-11-23, 02:06 PM

There is a book called Patrol Area 14: US Navy World War II Submarine Patrols to the Mariana Islands and then there is a movie reference to Area 7 being off the coast of Japan in home waters. Has anyone every found a map that shows these designated patrol areas used by ComSubPac and SoWesPac command to assign area of operation?

If not a map - a list?

Thanks for any help anyone has....

razark · 10-11-23, 04:02 PM

You can find a couple of maps in the manual for the TMO mod.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=2999

I looked around, but couldn't find any better images on my disk. I know I used to have some, but no idea where they ended up.

ElCid97 · 10-11-23, 05:37 PM

I can verify that the FotRSU install has the area "marked" on the navigational map. It's at the mouth of the Bungo Straights.

Go south from Tokyo along the coast until you get to the Straights and you'll see a number "7" just south of it out to sea.

There are also several other areas around Japan and the Philippines on there.

I can't speak for the TMO install since I don't have it installed. I went with FotRSU since I was under the impression it was basically a "best of them" mix for TMO, RSRD, and RFB. Not sure if that's correct, but I really like the way it plays out and the amount of detail there is -- especially with the full interiors and fix installed.

Hope this helped!

ElCid97

propbeanie · 10-12-23, 01:13 AM

I also could not find my map pictures... but there used to be a chart on the internet that showed them all. So here is a screen grab of the SH4 Mission Editor with a couple of "name" files loaded:

TMO, TMOwTw, FOTRS and FotRSU has them, but all have them because TMO had them first.

Here is a cover of a pdf file I have, which is the closest I got to finding a chart online, and it is part of an article - but really good reading. I just searched on it to link you to it, but it is no longer a research paper, but rather an onliine "book"... hmmm

Rigel44 · 10-12-23, 07:00 AM

Thank you - this is what I had in mind. I printed out the TMO manual and those maps are the ones I had in mind but see that has been replicated in the mission editor (I admit I have never use the mission editor so I was not aware). I tried hard to search online for a digital version of what is in the TMO manual thinking if I could find a digital file of reasonable resolution I could print that out larger scale but I have so far come up empty on that. This should work for now but I will not give up trying to find that map that obviously someone found to be able to include it in the TMO manual.

Thanks again!

Rigel44 · 10-12-23, 07:48 AM

I believe this is the source file for the maps - it is an extensive military report (1000+ pages) on the Battle of Leyte Gulf

Defense Technical Information Center (.mil)
https://apps.dtic.mil › sti › pdf › ADA003030
Based on Allied and Japanese records and data, this volume recounts the chronology of the operations of both sides in the. Battle of Surigao Strait.

Skoaler · 10-13-23, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCid97

I can verify that the FotRSU install has the area "marked" on the navigational map. It's at the mouth of the Bungo Straights.

Go south from Tokyo along the coast until you get to the Straights and you'll see a number "7" just south of it out to sea.

There are also several other areas around Japan and the Philippines on there.

I can't speak for the TMO install since I don't have it installed. I went with FotRSU since I was under the impression it was basically a "best of them" mix for TMO, RSRD, and RFB. Not sure if that's correct, but I really like the way it plays out and the amount of detail there is -- especially with the full interiors and fix installed.

Hope this helped!

ElCid97

Yeah.. Area 7 was in the movie Run Silent run deep a lot.. and it wound up at the Bungo Straits.. about a hundred hundred miles west of Tokyo.. I have this mission in my new mod (Skoalers SH4 Full cheat mod plus ---wierd suBs V2) at

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=6375

ElCid97 · 10-14-23, 01:20 PM

I've updated the two maps by adding a third one based on the recommendation by propbeanie of using the mission editor to get a screencapture.

You now have options of the original ones I did plus a COLOR one using the info straight from your SH4 install!

The color one has major cities and Japanese ports including Sasebo, Kure, and Yokosuka. The exception is Yokohama, which was basically Tokyo.

Enjoy!

ElCid97

Rigel44 · 10-15-23, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCid97

I've updated the two maps by adding a third one based on the recommendation by propbeanie of using the mission editor to get a screencapture.

You now have options of the original ones I did plus a COLOR one using the info straight from your SH4 install!

The color one has major cities and Japanese ports including Sasebo, Kure, and Yokosuka. The exception is Yokohama, which was basically Tokyo.

Enjoy!

ElCid97

Thank you ElCid97! These are good references

10-11-23, 02:06 PM	#1
Rigel44 Mate Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: New York State - but not near NYC Posts: 51 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Pacific Patrol Area Map There is a book called Patrol Area 14: US Navy World War II Submarine Patrols to the Mariana Islands and then there is a movie reference to Area 7 being off the coast of Japan in home waters. Has anyone every found a map that shows these designated patrol areas used by ComSubPac and SoWesPac command to assign area of operation? If not a map - a list? Thanks for any help anyone has....

10-11-23, 04:02 PM	#2
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	You can find a couple of maps in the manual for the TMO mod. https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=2999 I looked around, but couldn't find any better images on my disk. I know I used to have some, but no idea where they ended up. __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

10-12-23, 01:13 AM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	I also could not find my map pictures... but there used to be a chart on the internet that showed them all. So here is a screen grab of the SH4 Mission Editor with a couple of "name" files loaded: TMO, TMOwTw, FOTRS and FotRSU has them, but all have them because TMO had them first. Here is a cover of a pdf file I have, which is the closest I got to finding a chart online, and it is part of an article - but really good reading. I just searched on it to link you to it, but it is no longer a research paper, but rather an onliine "book"... hmmm __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

10-14-23, 01:20 PM	#8
ElCid97 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 127 Downloads: 120 Uploads: 5	V2 updated. I've updated the two maps by adding a third one based on the recommendation by propbeanie of using the mission editor to get a screencapture. You now have options of the original ones I did plus a COLOR one using the info straight from your SH4 install! The color one has major cities and Japanese ports including Sasebo, Kure, and Yokosuka. The exception is Yokohama, which was basically Tokyo. Enjoy! ElCid97

10-11-23, 05:37 PM	#3
ElCid97 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 127 Downloads: 120 Uploads: 5	I can verify that the FotRSU install has the area "marked" on the navigational map. It's at the mouth of the Bungo Straights. Go south from Tokyo along the coast until you get to the Straights and you'll see a number "7" just south of it out to sea. There are also several other areas around Japan and the Philippines on there. I can't speak for the TMO install since I don't have it installed. I went with FotRSU since I was under the impression it was basically a "best of them" mix for TMO, RSRD, and RFB. Not sure if that's correct, but I really like the way it plays out and the amount of detail there is -- especially with the full interiors and fix installed. Hope this helped! ElCid97

10-12-23, 07:00 AM	#5
Rigel44 Mate Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: New York State - but not near NYC Posts: 51 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Thank you - this is what I had in mind. I printed out the TMO manual and those maps are the ones I had in mind but see that has been replicated in the mission editor (I admit I have never use the mission editor so I was not aware). I tried hard to search online for a digital version of what is in the TMO manual thinking if I could find a digital file of reasonable resolution I could print that out larger scale but I have so far come up empty on that. This should work for now but I will not give up trying to find that map that obviously someone found to be able to include it in the TMO manual. Thanks again!

10-12-23, 07:48 AM	#6
Rigel44 Mate Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: New York State - but not near NYC Posts: 51 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	I believe this is the source file for the maps - it is an extensive military report (1000+ pages) on the Battle of Leyte Gulf Defense Technical Information Center (.mil) https://apps.dtic.mil › sti › pdf › ADA003030 Based on Allied and Japanese records and data, this volume recounts the chronology of the operations of both sides in the. Battle of Surigao Strait.