My loggia/balcony

Skybird · 07-20-23, 05:10 PM

Happy man I feel like today, I did myself something good and it is good for sure.

Three years ago, my loggia (I live in 2nd floor, thats 3rd in American code) had to be renovated completely, the zinc bottom had corroded and was leaking through after almost 50 years and into the appartment below mine, the wall and ceiling. Everything had to be replaced, and lastly, I bought stoneware tiles with extremely convincxing looking heavily weathered wood look.

This may look like old light wood, but I never really warmed up to it, and I always avoided the loggia as a result, after all it is cold, hard stone nevertheless. In addition, for structural reasons, there are no anchor points to install a retractable awning . But I live in the topo floor, above me, everything is open sky. So, however you may feel about this, I don't at all like sitting non-ground level and then with a wide sky above me, I don't feel comfortable that way. It keeps me on guard all the time. No sign of Gemütlichkeit.

Lazy as I am, it took a while, but this year I made some changes, and they worked out all around. I installed a simple plane awning (not mechanism, just the tarp and some lines and quick release carbines), but it will be replaced with a larger one next month, and I installed artificial turf, this morning. I'm not really a fan of artificial grass and find it unforgivable on the ground floor (use real grass if you already have a garden, what is a garden else for than for real plants?), but it's okay on balconies on upper floors.

The turf came late in the mornign, and I had underestimated the weight, since I bought real good quality (4.5 cm thick, expensive), 2x4.5m, 9 sqm. The girl by UPS was not happy, and I helped to unload it from the van,m then she helped me to get it upstairs. I estimated the weight to be around 55-60kg. Legally I think in Germany she would not even have been allowed to deliver it without a second crewman.

Being surprised I did not break my back, unrolling the thing all alone in a limited space and getting it into place was another martyrdom after she was gone (after all she was a UPS driver, not an installer of course). And the sun had come around, and I was soaking with sweat, my eyes were burnign and my tongue was swearing al by itself. It helps. Swearing always helps, believe it when a psychologist tells you that. That way, the storm is over much faster. I do not trust people who nerver curse or swear, they have a notorious brain cramp, I think. Juzst dont let it become personal.

What should I say - it all was so awesomely worth it, both the money and the work. Both in daylight and at sunset and in nightly darkness I now have a half-open cave that is extremely cozy and gemütlich, just as I wanted it to be. The material looks incredibly good, from 2-3 meter away you cannot differ the colour from that of real grass, and the general impression really is very fine. I am very happy with all things today, and thats why I want share it with you. Let images speak (and forgive that the beers are not drinkable)...

And now while I type a mild soft rain sets in and does it magic on the tarp. This day ends as it ran - perfect!

And the best shot, I sat until past 11 p.m. and night had fallen,a nd just enoyed some salt biscuits, cold beer, and the wonderful warming light of my two beloved petroleum lights. Original Feuerhand Baby Specials, of course.

mapuc · 07-20-23, 05:28 PM

Oh man looks really cozy I must say.

I myself has no balcony, I have a conservatory, approx. 35-40 sqm

Markus

Skybird · 07-20-23, 07:30 PM

You do gardening?

em2nought · 07-20-23, 08:15 PM

If I was going to stay in my current condo I'd probably put some of that turf on my screened in porch. I like how you put it on the ledge too. Sorta like moss.

HW3 · 07-20-23, 11:15 PM

Looks very nice! Well done!

Jimbuna · 07-21-23, 04:22 AM

Nice one, keep the beer chilled I'm on my way

Catfish · 07-21-23, 04:45 AM

@Skybird: Soviel Hang zur Harmonie hätte ich Dir garnicht zugetraut

Sieht klasse aus!

Skybird · 07-21-23, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

If I was going to stay in my current condo I'd probably put some of that turf on my screened in porch. I like how you put it on the ledge too. Sorta like moss.

It indeed feels like thick moss when you touch it barefoot.
I assume once or twice a year I will flush it some anti-alga/moos/greenlittleunwantedsomethings as a prevention, the thing gets full sun for half of th day.

I have stonewear below it whitch 3-4mm spaces between the tiles, and a drainage under these, I hope this is sufficient, the mild rain this night did not vcause any puddles remaning in the morning, but I will need to see how it works with heavy rainfall. Drainage opportunties always must be considered if you want to put it on sealed underground.

The look varies, depending on the direction from which you look at it, with or against the grain. It's a little shiny when you look with the grain, it looks more natural and produces more natural green tones when you look against the grain. That's why I had to flip the whole coating 180 degrees when I was done the first time....

Hm, grain probably is not the right word, but I know no better.

Jimbuna · 07-21-23, 05:04 AM

I'm presuming the grass is real yes?

I'm a bit of a lazy bugga and would have laid artificial grass

Skybird · 07-21-23, 05:20 AM

You have completely missed the point, dude! All green you see is artificial. See the first photo. The turf is ~4-4.5 cm thick.

Jimbuna · 07-21-23, 05:37 AM

Skybird · 07-21-23, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'm presuming the grass is real yes?

Skybird · 07-21-23, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

@Skybird: Soviel Hang zur Harmonie hätte ich Dir garnicht zugetraut

Sieht klasse aus!

Manchmal muß man das Leid und Elend dieser Welt stilvoll in einer gepflegten eiskalten Cervisia ertränken!

mapuc · 07-21-23, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

You do gardening?

Yes I have a garden. How many square meters it is I really don't know I know the lawn is about 7 to 800 square meters.

Mostly it's my elder sister who is doing it for me for the moment..I'm suffering from fatigue and now a bad loin. She get paid for it.

Markus

Skybird · 07-21-23, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

She get paid for it.

No doubt then - a Ferenghi you are not.

07-20-23, 05:10 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	My loggia/balcony Happy man I feel like today, I did myself something good and it is good for sure. Three years ago, my loggia (I live in 2nd floor, thats 3rd in American code) had to be renovated completely, the zinc bottom had corroded and was leaking through after almost 50 years and into the appartment below mine, the wall and ceiling. Everything had to be replaced, and lastly, I bought stoneware tiles with extremely convincxing looking heavily weathered wood look. This may look like old light wood, but I never really warmed up to it, and I always avoided the loggia as a result, after all it is cold, hard stone nevertheless. In addition, for structural reasons, there are no anchor points to install a retractable awning . But I live in the topo floor, above me, everything is open sky. So, however you may feel about this, I don't at all like sitting non-ground level and then with a wide sky above me, I don't feel comfortable that way. It keeps me on guard all the time. No sign of Gemütlichkeit. Lazy as I am, it took a while, but this year I made some changes, and they worked out all around. I installed a simple plane awning (not mechanism, just the tarp and some lines and quick release carbines), but it will be replaced with a larger one next month, and I installed artificial turf, this morning. I'm not really a fan of artificial grass and find it unforgivable on the ground floor (use real grass if you already have a garden, what is a garden else for than for real plants?), but it's okay on balconies on upper floors. The turf came late in the mornign, and I had underestimated the weight, since I bought real good quality (4.5 cm thick, expensive), 2x4.5m, 9 sqm. The girl by UPS was not happy, and I helped to unload it from the van,m then she helped me to get it upstairs. I estimated the weight to be around 55-60kg. Legally I think in Germany she would not even have been allowed to deliver it without a second crewman. Being surprised I did not break my back, unrolling the thing all alone in a limited space and getting it into place was another martyrdom after she was gone (after all she was a UPS driver, not an installer of course). And the sun had come around, and I was soaking with sweat, my eyes were burnign and my tongue was swearing al by itself. It helps. Swearing always helps, believe it when a psychologist tells you that. That way, the storm is over much faster. I do not trust people who nerver curse or swear, they have a notorious brain cramp, I think. Juzst dont let it become personal. What should I say - it all was so awesomely worth it, both the money and the work. Both in daylight and at sunset and in nightly darkness I now have a half-open cave that is extremely cozy and gemütlich, just as I wanted it to be. The material looks incredibly good, from 2-3 meter away you cannot differ the colour from that of real grass, and the general impression really is very fine. I am very happy with all things today, and thats why I want share it with you. Let images speak (and forgive that the beers are not drinkable)... And now while I type a mild soft rain sets in and does it magic on the tarp. This day ends as it ran - perfect! And the best shot, I sat until past 11 p.m. and night had fallen,a nd just enoyed some salt biscuits, cold beer, and the wonderful warming light of my two beloved petroleum lights. Original Feuerhand Baby Specials, of course. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-20-23 at 05:21 PM.

07-20-23, 05:28 PM	#2
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Oh man looks really cozy I must say. I myself has no balcony, I have a conservatory, approx. 35-40 sqm Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

07-20-23, 07:30 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You do gardening? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-20-23, 08:15 PM	#4
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If I was going to stay in my current condo I'd probably put some of that turf on my screened in porch. I like how you put it on the ledge too. Sorta like moss. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

07-20-23, 11:15 PM	#5
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	Looks very nice! Well done! __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

07-21-23, 04:22 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Nice one, keep the beer chilled I'm on my way __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-21-23, 04:45 AM	#7
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07-21-23, 05:04 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm presuming the grass is real yes? I'm a bit of a lazy bugga and would have laid artificial grass __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-21-23, 05:20 AM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You have completely missed the point, dude! All green you see is artificial. See the first photo. The turf is ~4-4.5 cm thick. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-21-23, 05:37 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!