[TEC] Possible?

Bubblehead1980 · 03-14-22, 01:41 PM

Thought of this in another discussion. Sometimes skippers thought they had hits when torpedoes were actually duds because of the splash of water/air flask etc. Premature detonations that occurred when very close to ships looked like hits as well. This is true in the sim, would think some are hits if not for crew not reporting torpedo impact. Although, they can do damage when real close but not report as a hit.

For duds all we have is a the dud sound, would be great if got a splash, perhaps not a big one but something like what skippers would often see. So would it be possible to have a splash effect present for dud torpedoes ?

vickers03 · 03-14-22, 02:40 PM

good idea! should be possible. if you check torpedoes_US.dat, there
is a dud effect assigned in the .sim which leads to the particles.dat,
i think you can add a splash to that effect there easily.

propbeanie · 03-14-22, 05:41 PM

I thought there already was...

Bubblehead1980 · 03-14-22, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

I thought there already was...

Not my knowledge. When a dud hits, just the sound, no visible splash. Unless you guys have it in FOTRS?

I havent had a chance to really run the latest version yet.

propbeanie · 03-15-22, 01:21 AM

Look in yours for this link

vickers03 · 03-15-22, 01:35 AM

Thats the one. But there is no particle effect attached to it.

propbeanie · 03-15-22, 06:16 AM

Ahhhh... lol - Needs a "splash" and torpedo pieces, eh?

Bubblehead1980 · 03-16-22, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vickers03

Thats the one. But there is no particle effect attached to it.

One can be added though?

vickers03 · 03-16-22, 05:08 AM

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One can be added though?

should be no problem. just copy for example the torpedo splash particle generator into the dud effects node,
then edit the particle generator for a smaller size splash.

Bubblehead1980 · 03-16-22, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vickers03

should be no problem. just copy for example the torpedo splash particle generator into the dud effects node,
then edit the particle generator for a smaller size splash.

Great , will give it a try today.

propbeanie · 03-16-22, 12:43 PM

I was just doing some testing on my attempt at activating that, and first shot "The torpedo is a dud, sir." Nothing... lol - no splash, so I either did something wrong (highly likely), or I'm missing something still (also highly likely), or the game needs something else (possible). Anyway, shots 2-6 did NOT DUD!!! what the? A 90 degree shot in FotRSU with duds enabled should render you a 99% chance of a dud in early 1942... sigh.

Bubblehead1980 · 03-16-22, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

I was just doing some testing on my attempt at activating that, and first shot "The torpedo is a dud, sir." Nothing... lol - no splash, so I either did something wrong (highly likely), or I'm missing something still (also highly likely), or the game needs something else (possible). Anyway, shots 2-6 did NOT DUD!!! what the? A 90 degree shot in FotRSU with duds enabled should render you a 99% chance of a dud in early 1942... sigh.

Ahhh, well you tested it out first, thanks for the feedback.

When home later this evening I will send you the TMO torpedo files I have for V2.0 of TMO update great dud rate so can look them over and if want, try them out in FOTRS, see how it work. I found the key is just have to set the angle tolerances a bit different, but in the sim it will turn out like reality for most part. Overall, changes have solved issue with not getting duds as well as other features of torpedo such as depth control and magnetic exploder proving too reliable in early years. Based on what have read, have it about as close to being right as can get lol.

vickers03 · 03-16-22, 03:18 PM

got it to work

could be a little smaller.

Bubblehead1980 · 03-16-22, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vickers03

got it to work

could be a little smaller.

Nice!

Since it deals with particles.dat. Will it be compatible with the EAX sound mod you sen ? with merchant smoke, dc and gun splashes, the "clang" and the splashes and all?

vickers03 · 03-16-22, 03:42 PM

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Nice!

Since it deals with particles.dat. Will it be compatible with the EAX sound mod you sen ? with merchant smoke, dc and gun splashes, the "clang" and the splashes and all?

i'll make a merged TMO and a FOTRSU version.

03-14-22, 01:41 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,121 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Possible? Thought of this in another discussion. Sometimes skippers thought they had hits when torpedoes were actually duds because of the splash of water/air flask etc. Premature detonations that occurred when very close to ships looked like hits as well. This is true in the sim, would think some are hits if not for crew not reporting torpedo impact. Although, they can do damage when real close but not report as a hit. For duds all we have is a the dud sound, would be great if got a splash, perhaps not a big one but something like what skippers would often see. So would it be possible to have a splash effect present for dud torpedoes ?

03-14-22, 05:41 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	I thought there already was... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-15-22, 01:21 AM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Look in yours for this link __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-15-22, 06:16 AM	#7
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Ahhhh... lol - Needs a "splash" and torpedo pieces, eh? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-16-22, 12:43 PM	#11
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	I was just doing some testing on my attempt at activating that, and first shot "The torpedo is a dud, sir." Nothing... lol - no splash, so I either did something wrong (highly likely), or I'm missing something still (also highly likely), or the game needs something else (possible). Anyway, shots 2-6 did NOT DUD!!! what the? A 90 degree shot in FotRSU with duds enabled should render you a 99% chance of a dud in early 1942... sigh. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-14-22, 02:40 PM	#2
vickers03 Pooped from posting Join Date: May 2007 Location: germany Posts: 999 Downloads: 712 Uploads: 37	good idea! should be possible. if you check torpedoes_US.dat, there is a dud effect assigned in the .sim which leads to the particles.dat, i think you can add a splash to that effect there easily.

03-15-22, 01:35 AM	#6
vickers03 Pooped from posting Join Date: May 2007 Location: germany Posts: 999 Downloads: 712 Uploads: 37	Thats the one. But there is no particle effect attached to it.

03-16-22, 03:18 PM	#13
vickers03 Pooped from posting Join Date: May 2007 Location: germany Posts: 999 Downloads: 712 Uploads: 37	got it to work could be a little smaller.