Zuckerberg considers to switch off FB and Instagram in Europe

Skybird · 02-07-22, 06:24 PM

Yes, please!

Der Tagesspiegel writes:

"

Meta considers shutting down its services in the EU

Tech giant Meta is considering shutting down its Facebook and Instagram social media platforms in Europe. The reason, it says, is data protection rules here.

European data protection rules are a high priority in Germany and the European Union. For the U.S.-based tech company Meta, that standard has not fit well for some time. An annual report from the tech company to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) now reveals that the company is considering shutting down certain services in Europe.

It states, among other things: "If we are unable to transmit, process and/or receive data between the countries and regions in which we operate, or if we are prevented from exchanging data between our products and services, it could affect our ability to provide our services, [...] which could negatively impact our financial results."

In the report, the Facebook group describes the problems that arose for it in the EU: the exchange of user data between meta-servers in the EU and the US. Thus, the group relied on the EU-US Privacy Shield when transferring data from the European Union to the United States, Meta writes.

The so-called EU-US Privacy Shield agreement regulated the use of data away from the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). However, in July 2020, this was declared invalid by the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU).

At the time, the ECJ ruled that personal data could no longer be transferred to the U.S. without verification. In concrete terms, this means that if the standard of protection for personal data in third countries does not meet EU legal requirements or can be guaranteed by other means, then the transfer of the data must be suspended or prohibited, according to the ECJ.

This was preceded back in 2014 by a complaint filed by Austrian data protection activist Max Schrems with the Irish data protection authority. As a result, the ECJ ruled for the first time that the U.S. data protection standard was not equivalent to that of the European Union. The U.S. was no longer considered a so-called "safe haven" in data matters.

Schrems complained at the time, referring to the revelations of former NSA employee Edward Snowden, that the law and practice of the United States did not offer sufficient protection of data transferred to that country from surveillance activities by the authorities there, he told ECJ.

If there is no "new transatlantic framework for data transfer," Meta "is unlikely to be able to offer a number of our key products and services, including Facebook and Instagram, in Europe," the group now wrote in its report.

Recently, the bad news around the Facebook Group accumulated. For the first time, the social media platform hardly gained any new users in the past quarter. The number of daily active members even fell. In terms of monthly activity, there was a meager increase of two million by Facebook standards.

Combined with disappointment over revenue guidance for the current quarter, the numbers sent investors fleeing: Shares in Meta, the umbrella company, lost nearly 23 percent in a spectacular plunge in after-hours trading Wednesday. (with dpa)
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Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Skybird · 02-07-22, 06:36 PM

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Buddahaid · 02-07-22, 08:04 PM

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

mapuc · 02-07-22, 08:19 PM

As long as I have subsim then they can shut FB down.

Furthermore it's not the first time they have threaten to switch off FB from Europe. Since a majority is very much addicted to FB-including our politician-FB will get what they want.

Markus

Onkel Neal · 02-07-22, 09:38 PM

Same here, would be a blessing if FB went away.
I think they are bluffing, counting on a user uprising to support them.

Catfish · 02-08-22, 03:54 AM

^ may well be.. and with the level of information and critic ability most FB users have this uprising may (unfortunately) happen..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes, please!

Der Tagesspiegel writes:
Meta considers shutting down its services in the EU

Oh YES

Won't help much though because every internet tech company is exploiting your personal info and metadata; and though FB and Google are the worst, Amazon, eBay and all else do it, too.

Jimbuna · 02-08-22, 07:28 AM

Simply bluffing imho.

mapuc · 02-08-22, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Simply bluffing imho.

They could scare the hell out of our politicians and ordinary user-by shuting down FB over Europe for a period of 2 days.

Thereby they will get what they want-A special FB law will be made in EU-Allowing FB to use European metadata in USA third party.

Markus

02-07-22, 06:24 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Zuckerberg considers to switch off FB and Instagram in Europe Yes, please! Der Tagesspiegel writes: " Meta considers shutting down its services in the EU Tech giant Meta is considering shutting down its Facebook and Instagram social media platforms in Europe. The reason, it says, is data protection rules here. European data protection rules are a high priority in Germany and the European Union. For the U.S.-based tech company Meta, that standard has not fit well for some time. An annual report from the tech company to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) now reveals that the company is considering shutting down certain services in Europe. It states, among other things: "If we are unable to transmit, process and/or receive data between the countries and regions in which we operate, or if we are prevented from exchanging data between our products and services, it could affect our ability to provide our services, [...] which could negatively impact our financial results." In the report, the Facebook group describes the problems that arose for it in the EU: the exchange of user data between meta-servers in the EU and the US. Thus, the group relied on the EU-US Privacy Shield when transferring data from the European Union to the United States, Meta writes. The so-called EU-US Privacy Shield agreement regulated the use of data away from the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). However, in July 2020, this was declared invalid by the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU). At the time, the ECJ ruled that personal data could no longer be transferred to the U.S. without verification. In concrete terms, this means that if the standard of protection for personal data in third countries does not meet EU legal requirements or can be guaranteed by other means, then the transfer of the data must be suspended or prohibited, according to the ECJ. This was preceded back in 2014 by a complaint filed by Austrian data protection activist Max Schrems with the Irish data protection authority. As a result, the ECJ ruled for the first time that the U.S. data protection standard was not equivalent to that of the European Union. The U.S. was no longer considered a so-called "safe haven" in data matters. Schrems complained at the time, referring to the revelations of former NSA employee Edward Snowden, that the law and practice of the United States did not offer sufficient protection of data transferred to that country from surveillance activities by the authorities there, he told ECJ. If there is no "new transatlantic framework for data transfer," Meta "is unlikely to be able to offer a number of our key products and services, including Facebook and Instagram, in Europe," the group now wrote in its report. Recently, the bad news around the Facebook Group accumulated. For the first time, the social media platform hardly gained any new users in the past quarter. The number of daily active members even fell. In terms of monthly activity, there was a meager increase of two million by Facebook standards. Combined with disappointment over revenue guidance for the current quarter, the numbers sent investors fleeing: Shares in Meta, the umbrella company, lost nearly 23 percent in a spectacular plunge in after-hours trading Wednesday. (with dpa) " Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-07-22, 06:36 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	On a side-note, I want to recommend the new - or not so new - translator I now use, DeepL. Its the world-leading standard in translator technology currently, claim the German founders and owners, and they even have left the quality of Google's AI-based translator behind. All the texts I recently posted with translating them via DeepL, have bee posted without any further editing or correction for bad terms and phrases choosen by the AI. With Google Translator, as good as it works, this was common necessity for me. With DeepL, I do not need to change a single word or phrasing anymore. After having used it for three weeks, I clearly see the massive improvement. The free version can be used for up top 5000 letter-texts. But you cannot (in the free version) enter a website's link to have the whole site translated, for that you still would, need to use Google. I have tested it with other languages as well, translating from German into the other language, and then translating the result back to German. Again DeepL beats Google every time. I tested with French, Swedish, Japanese. https://www.deepl.com/de/translator Be aware that all translated texts, may it be Google or DeepL , get stored and processed by the companies to improve the quality of thegenerated translations. I would not use such software for sensitive, personal and compromising texts. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-07-22, 08:04 PM	#3
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Don't let the door hit you on the way out. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

02-07-22, 08:19 PM	#4
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	As long as I have subsim then they can shut FB down. Furthermore it's not the first time they have threaten to switch off FB from Europe. Since a majority is very much addicted to FB-including our politician-FB will get what they want. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

02-07-22, 09:38 PM	#5
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Same here, would be a blessing if FB went away. I think they are bluffing, counting on a user uprising to support them. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-08-22, 07:28 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Simply bluffing imho. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!