is the market crashing?

[rikeloldaboss]

i just want to preface this by saying I'm not American, and that i only actually own two stocks. however, i do understand that sadly, the US economy directly effects us, even if there are no tariffs being placed.


1 month in, 8 percent of the s&p down the drain. what is going on? obviously i wasn't here during the great depression (im sure some of you were.), but i know that it kind of helped fuel the second world war, at least for germany. are we headed in that direction? especially with the recent elections!

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Trump inherited a lubricated economy: low unemployment, rising wages and consumer spending, and even inflation fell for a while. Today's pessimism is therefore mainly due to Trump's chaotic policies. Take trade tariffs. Last week, Trump introduced 25 % import tariffs on almost all goods from Canada and Mexico. Soon after, he postponed many of those levies again. Then yesterday, he announced yet another increase in import tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminium to 50 %. As a result, companies cannot do any planning, as they are constantly faced with the question whether they will soon face more expensive import prices.

Sectors like hospitality and agriculture are also losing workers due to mass deportations of migrants. On the other hand, for the time being, the scrapping of the government mainly leads to chaos and fewer government contracts for companies. So businesses feel the negative effects, without getting any compensation. On Friday, investment bank Goldman Sachs announced that it estimates the probability of a recession at 15-20%. ‘A real contraction on an annual basis, I don't expect that immediately,’ says Vanden Houte. ‘But quarterly is much more volatile. So a contraction in one of the next quarters is quite possible. Especially since the real impact of import tariffs has yet to make itself felt.’

[Raf1394]

Just a normal crash. Markets always crash after a while.
The markets will recover.

Just see this opportunity to buy stocks at a low price.
Its years, if been investing in different things, (gold, bitcoin, stocks)
I actually recently bought some new shares for Microsoft. These crashes don't bother me. Always think about the long term investments.
I don't care what the markets now are doing. I do care where the market will stand after 10 years.

I have experienced the Bitcoin crash in 2021-2022. It dropped over 60%...
having a big loss, even with stocks. But i just kept my investments and ignored the panic and drops. The markets recovered, and i'm back having profits.


This current crash is a perfect opportunity to start investing. But always invest with money you don't need. And never buy a stock who is rising. Buy those good ones who are now very low.

I'm not a expert. But Tesla for example, dropped a lot. Musk has a bad image for the moment. But buying Tesla now, isn't a bad idea. Tesla will recover after a while. And never follow what the media or those ''experts'' say. Do your own research and your own thing. Believe in your own ideas. Don't follow what most people do. Where there is panic, you buy. When the markets are high, you keep it or sell it.

Be rational, don't follow your emotions when you see the market crashing.


And i bet you Trump knows damn sure the market would crash after what he did. The American economy will recover after this crash.
I'm not a big fan of Trump. But the guy is still a business man, he knows what he is doing. It sounds weird. But a market crashing is a great opportunity to buy new shares. And expand your assets and wealth on the long term. Most people don't understand this.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by Raf1394

But Tesla for example, dropped a lot. Musk has a bad image for the moment. But buying Tesla now, isn't a bad idea.

It is a terrible idea. Tesla stocks have been and still are massively overvalued, completely independent of any Musk antics, and Tesla doesn't even pay dividends.

So no, don't buy Tesla stocks.

[Raf1394]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

It is a terrible idea. Tesla stocks have been and still are massively overvalued, completely independent of any Musk antics, and Tesla doesn't even pay dividends.

So no, don't buy Tesla stocks.

yes, true

[vienna]

Hmm...

Over 4 trillion dollars in stock market losses in a bit under one week...

...so, all you with 401k's who voted for the Giant Orange Buffoon, how's it working out for y'all...?...



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[Raf1394]

Originally Posted by vienna

Hmm...

Over 4 trillion dollars in stock market losses in a bit under one week...

...so, all you with 401k's who voted for the Giant Orange Buffoon, how's it working out for y'all...?...



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I actually disagree

It doesn't matter what the current market is doing.
Yes, the market crashed. But for long term investment it shouldn't be a problem.The effects you see now are not permanent. You can compare it with a recession.
Its true that Tesla isn't the greatest stock to buy. But its cheap. You can currently buy it now for a lower price, then it was before.

Microsoft, Amazon, Nvidia, Apple, Tesla ect, all stocks that are lower now. Some of them are good some not. its your own choice. But its almost 70% sure that those stocks will rise again after this crash. People like Musk and Bezos lost some of there wealth. Thats true. But on the long term, there companies will be worth a lot more then today. Maybe more then the price it had before the crash.

People always think about today. But think about the future.
When i see a stock. I don't look at the price today. I try to speculate what the price will be after 5-10 years, even more.
Look at Rheinmetal stock. German arms manufacturer, the stock skyrocketed. Because Europe invests more in there defense.
Some people want to start investing in Rheinmetal. But its too late. I would say no. It still has potential to grow. But you should have invested in it years ago, at a low price and now selling it.

Always think about the future and long term. there will be stocks who are very low now, that will rise after this arms race with Europe and Russia.
You already know that in the future, over the next few years. Europe will cut off a bit there investments in defense.
Because they will say ''we invested to much in 2025'' Then a new stock will skyrocket.
(that currently is very low or unknown)

Always think ahead I actually believe that the American economy will flourish after a few years. After this crash, the economy will boom again.
I'm talking from my own experience too. I always did the opposite what the media or most of the people told me... You buy when there is fear, you sell when the market is flourishing.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by Raf1394

Its true that Tesla isn't the greatest stock to buy. But its cheap.

It's cheaper than it was before, but it's not cheap. It's still vastly overpriced. Baset on market capitalization (number of shares multiplied by current price of a share) it's 18-times more valuable than Ford - yet Ford outclasses Tesla easily in number of cars produced, sales and revenue.

[Jimbuna]

As like most things in lfe, you reap what you sow.

[Dargo]

I have sold everything it is too volatile, invest in natural resources and wait till the market hit its bottom than you can start buying again but wait till this trade war is over.