Big Brother is now very real in London, England

Mr Quatro · 01-24-20, 09:48 AM

Well at least Steed is safe there are no known images of Steed (that you can trust) of Steed on this forum

London police begin using live facial recognition tech across the capital
Meanwhile, Europe wants to ban the technology for up to five years

https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/24/...ublic-streets/

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London's Metropolitan Police Service has begun using live facial recognition (LFR) technology. At key areas throughout the city, signposted cameras
will scan the faces of passing people, alerting officers to potential matches with wanted criminals. According to the Met,
"this will help tackle serious crime, including serious violence, gun and knife crime, child sexual exploitation and help protect the vulnerable".

Jimbuna · 01-24-20, 10:35 AM

Not a moment too soon imho.

Catfish · 01-24-20, 10:56 AM

Thank god this can never be abused by police, secret service, government or any rogue hacker [/sarcasm]
Europe can ban that for five years or whatever period they say, it will come nonetheless. What can be done, will be done, everywhere.
George Orwell's "Big Brother" was a bloody amateur, and in reality total control will not necessarilay be abused by a left dictatorship.

Sometimes i think the american take on guns has its advantages

Skybird · 01-24-20, 11:46 AM

https://www.essex.ac.uk/news/2019/07...trial-concerns

Like with banning cahs money onbly to fight tax fraud and counterfeit money, face reocngition only is used for fighting cirme and findign suspects.

Naive is who believes this opportunistic, one-sided, heavily biased propaganda. All these options made possible by the unfoldiug of computer technolgoy and establishing digital networks, have turned out her ein germany to intiially oscciasonaly getting abused, then getting abused in exploding case numbers, then turned into beign the norm. Especially database requests between state fofices and services of all kinds, who should - in theory - not have the ruight or ability to reqeust data form an othe rbureau'S database by routine. So far, always thew worst case xenaio ahs turened to become the norm.

It will not be different here. And do not be folled. Data deletion does not exist. Anonymizing of personal data can relatively easily worked around: which means in the end that anonymous data sets do not exist. Poltics will allow private bsuienss to access this data for [enter some politician-bastards stupid rhetoric propaganda phrase].

Every state has it in its genes, no matter its constitution and system: it constantly seeks to increase its power, control and surveillance of all and everything, it always wants to pushed these further and further, there is no limit to it possible. In this the Us is dnot different form China, Britioan is not different from the GDR and North Korea is not different form germany. Every state has one attractor it moves towards, only the speed varies from state to state. This attractor is contorl, totalitarian control, totaliatrian subjugation of the individual.

The worst enemies to the state are its own citizens, are free, independent, informed, freedom-loving citizens wantign to be respinsuiboe for themselves instead of having the state claiming responsibility or them. And every state treats his citizens accordingly.

The worst enemy of citizens is the state, for a reason I do not understand most people simply ignore this.

All these things , all of them seem to always turn into tools by which people allow to get lead into "unfreedom".

Cyborg322 · 01-24-20, 04:53 PM

As far as data deletion is concerned All sensitive data should be encrypted and the ability to do so made more accessible and simple to use . Permissions for keys need to be validated first so there is some form of accountability.

Armistead · 01-24-20, 07:48 PM

I hope our constitution here in the USA {4th} would stop this from happening.

Sean C · 01-25-20, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyborg322

As far as data deletion is concerned All sensitive data should be encrypted and the ability to do so made more accessible and simple to use . Permissions for keys need to be validated first so there is some form of accountability.

That's the problem with encryption, generally: the more secure the system, the more difficult it is for the average person to use. I used to use PGP, but no one else I know was using it - or even knew how to ... so there was no point in continuing.

01-24-20, 10:35 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Not a moment too soon imho. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-24-20, 10:56 AM	#3
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,765 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Thank god this can never be abused by police, secret service, government or any rogue hacker [/sarcasm] Europe can ban that for five years or whatever period they say, it will come nonetheless. What can be done, will be done, everywhere. George Orwell's "Big Brother" was a bloody amateur, and in reality total control will not necessarilay be abused by a left dictatorship. Sometimes i think the american take on guns has its advantages __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-24-20, 11:46 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	https://www.essex.ac.uk/news/2019/07...trial-concerns Like with banning cahs money onbly to fight tax fraud and counterfeit money, face reocngition only is used for fighting cirme and findign suspects. Naive is who believes this opportunistic, one-sided, heavily biased propaganda. All these options made possible by the unfoldiug of computer technolgoy and establishing digital networks, have turned out her ein germany to intiially oscciasonaly getting abused, then getting abused in exploding case numbers, then turned into beign the norm. Especially database requests between state fofices and services of all kinds, who should - in theory - not have the ruight or ability to reqeust data form an othe rbureau'S database by routine. So far, always thew worst case xenaio ahs turened to become the norm. It will not be different here. And do not be folled. Data deletion does not exist. Anonymizing of personal data can relatively easily worked around: which means in the end that anonymous data sets do not exist. Poltics will allow private bsuienss to access this data for [enter some politician-bastards stupid rhetoric propaganda phrase]. Every state has it in its genes, no matter its constitution and system: it constantly seeks to increase its power, control and surveillance of all and everything, it always wants to pushed these further and further, there is no limit to it possible. In this the Us is dnot different form China, Britioan is not different from the GDR and North Korea is not different form germany. Every state has one attractor it moves towards, only the speed varies from state to state. This attractor is contorl, totalitarian control, totaliatrian subjugation of the individual. The worst enemies to the state are its own citizens, are free, independent, informed, freedom-loving citizens wantign to be respinsuiboe for themselves instead of having the state claiming responsibility or them. And every state treats his citizens accordingly. The worst enemy of citizens is the state, for a reason I do not understand most people simply ignore this. All these things , all of them seem to always turn into tools by which people allow to get lead into "unfreedom". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-24-20, 04:53 PM	#5
Cyborg322 Scurvy Dog of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Manchester England Posts: 1,125 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 0	As far as data deletion is concerned All sensitive data should be encrypted and the ability to do so made more accessible and simple to use . Permissions for keys need to be validated first so there is some form of accountability. __________________

01-24-20, 07:48 PM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I hope our constitution here in the USA {4th} would stop this from happening. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.