Remembrance Sunday

Jimbuna · 11-10-19, 05:57 AM

Skybird · 11-10-19, 06:43 AM

Learn...!

August · 11-10-19, 10:19 AM

Oh we did learn and we got much better at it the second time around.

I remember.

My Great Grandfather is buried in those fields.

August Karl KIA Oct. 3 1918

Skybird · 11-10-19, 11:13 AM

There is more to it. For example learning not to sleepwalk into regime changes that then trigger such desasters. Or learning not to appease external aggressors until they can no longer be contained.

Small problems must be solved before they have turned into big problems (Lao Tse).

Thats the point both for civilization and society, and for bilateral relations between nations and their societies.

Not allowing/causing/wanting needless wars for the wrong, unnecessary reasons, and not allowing those pushing these kind of desasters for their personal reasons to gain power and influence. Thats is what is to be learned.

Else there wil be more days of rememberance in the future than originally would have been needed. Differentiating between conflicts that cannot be avoided and must be fought out and won, and conflicts that are needlessly wanted: and early recognising developements and factors that lead the world onto slippery slopes.

Learn...! Remembering is not enough, and just leads to history repeating itself. Its like public mournings after another school shooting, or public gatherings after another religious or racist attack on somebody wearing a Kippa. This is routine by now. Hollow, meaningless, show. Petrified ritual.

That is not enough - and makes mockery of those who suffered and died.

stork100 · 11-11-19, 07:18 AM

Lest we forget.

u crank · 11-11-19, 07:22 AM

Jimbuna · 11-11-19, 02:20 PM

Quote:

A man who admitted ruining a Remembrance Sunday event by setting off fireworks during a two-minute silence has been jailed for 16 weeks.

Stuart Potts, 38, let off two fireworks as hundreds of people observed the silence at 11:00 GMT at the cenotaph in Eccles, Salford, on Sunday.

Potts set off the fireworks while sitting on a ledge of a first-floor window in a nearby disused pub.

He admitted throwing a firework in public, and a public order offence.

Potts of Borough Road, Salford, who has 21 previous convictions, claimed he was given the fireworks by someone else and lit them "as a mark of respect" to emulate the volley of shots fired at some Remembrance Day events.

'Lack of respect'
Sentencing him at Manchester Magistrates' Court, District Judge Mark Hadfield said he did not believe Potts' story.

He added: "I rather doubt that anybody in their right mind would think letting them off in the middle of that ceremony was a mark of respect.

"It shows a staggering lack of respect for those attending and those being remembered."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-50374253

Words escape me

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 11-11-19, 07:34 PM

11-10-19, 05:57 AM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Remembrance Sunday __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-10-19, 06:43 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Learn...! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-10-19, 10:19 AM	#3
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh we did learn and we got much better at it the second time around. I remember. My Great Grandfather is buried in those fields. August Karl KIA Oct. 3 1918 __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

11-10-19, 11:13 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	There is more to it. For example learning not to sleepwalk into regime changes that then trigger such desasters. Or learning not to appease external aggressors until they can no longer be contained. Small problems must be solved before they have turned into big problems (Lao Tse). Thats the point both for civilization and society, and for bilateral relations between nations and their societies. Not allowing/causing/wanting needless wars for the wrong, unnecessary reasons, and not allowing those pushing these kind of desasters for their personal reasons to gain power and influence. Thats is what is to be learned. Else there wil be more days of rememberance in the future than originally would have been needed. Differentiating between conflicts that cannot be avoided and must be fought out and won, and conflicts that are needlessly wanted: and early recognising developements and factors that lead the world onto slippery slopes. Learn...! Remembering is not enough, and just leads to history repeating itself. Its like public mournings after another school shooting, or public gatherings after another religious or racist attack on somebody wearing a Kippa. This is routine by now. Hollow, meaningless, show. Petrified ritual. That is not enough - and makes mockery of those who suffered and died. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-11-19, 07:22 AM	#6
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,744 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	__________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

11-11-19, 07:18 AM	#5
stork100 Weps Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Australia Posts: 371 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Lest we forget.

11-11-19, 07:34 PM	#8
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	__________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin Last edited by Kptlt. Neuerburg; 11-11-19 at 07:43 PM.