Vandals rob and sink WW2 Era Submarine

August · 08-16-18, 07:11 PM

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Police in New Jersey are searching for the culprits who sunk a World War II-era submarine that was docked in the Hackensack River. Navy veteran Jack Brown, who serves as a trustee on the Submarine Memorial Association, noticed something didn't look right when he went to visit the New Jersey Naval Museum over the weekend.
"I noticed the boat looked very low in the water," Brown said. "[Vandals] cut through with bolt cutters, I guess, got in and opened all the hatches. The equipment and artifacts inside are ruined."

Buddahaid · 08-16-18, 07:18 PM

Wonderful.....

Let's hope they are caught and keel hauled.

Commander Wallace · 08-16-18, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Wonderful.....

Let's hope they are caught and keel hauled.

That would be way too good for these morons that did this.

fireftr18 · 08-16-18, 08:34 PM

Give them community service. Specifically doing all the work restoring what can be restored.

Kapt Z · 08-16-18, 09:34 PM

It is such a shame. I resigned myself quite a while ago that LING herself was probably doomed, but hoped at least maybe someone could salvage items from her interior which was in great shape last time I was there(20+ years ago) and send them to other submarine museums.

After this?

HunterICX · 08-17-18, 04:32 AM

No respect, no respect at all

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Originally Posted by fireftr18

Give them community service. Specifically doing all the work restoring what can be restored.

I wouldn't want them to be near the sub again, I'd say have them pay the bill for the damages they caused.

Jimbuna · 08-17-18, 04:37 AM

Absolutely senseless

Aoogahman · 08-17-18, 08:50 AM

I took a stroll through the Ling about 17 years ago and took a bunch of photos. She was in pretty good shape at that time. It's very disturbing when people pull that kind of crap!

Mike Abberton · 08-17-18, 09:00 AM

Sorry if this violates any forum rules, but...

What a bunch of a-holes.

Platapus · 08-17-18, 11:45 AM

I do not understand the crime of vandalism.

What sort of person garners a personal benefit by just destroying stuff?

That takes a disturbing mindset

l02turner · 09-24-18, 03:29 PM

While I agree keel hauling is too good for them (it really is a nasty form of punishment) and I wouldn't want them near the boat again either unless it was on the exterior chipping old paint on a hot summer day, and the suggestion about making them pay for damages is also good as long as their parents money isn't involved is also good.

I wish there was a way to make them understand what they were destroying, but I suspect that only happens in the movies.

I think the physical punishment is what endures. For all we know, these kids (if it was kids) may come from money and a fine or damages means little to them.

I'd like to see the physical punishment (hard work) to far exceed the value of what was damaged. I suspect most of what was damaged is impossible to place a value on. Maybe make them perform maintenance on the boat for the rest of their lives?

August · 09-24-18, 03:35 PM

As I understand it this was more than just vandalism. I read somewhere that the sinking may have been to cover the theft of 4 valuable bronze plaques.

Gargamel · 09-24-18, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Abberton

Sorry if this violates any forum rules, but...

What a bunch of a-holes.

Given the offense, and what SubSim is about, I'm guessing the mods might be a bit lenient on the rules in this thread....

STEED · 09-25-18, 05:29 AM

Bring back the stocks I say.

A disgraceful act.

em2nought · 09-25-18, 07:49 AM

Somebody should get Paul Allen involved. He doesn't even have to search for the Ling. Surely he has the funds and interest to move it to someplace that it would be wanted?

08-16-18, 07:18 PM	#2
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Wonderful..... Let's hope they are caught and keel hauled. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

08-16-18, 08:34 PM	#4
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Give them community service. Specifically doing all the work restoring what can be restored. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

08-16-18, 09:34 PM	#5
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	It is such a shame. I resigned myself quite a while ago that LING herself was probably doomed, but hoped at least maybe someone could salvage items from her interior which was in great shape last time I was there(20+ years ago) and send them to other submarine museums. After this? __________________ ...I fought in many guises, many names, but always me. Patton

08-17-18, 04:37 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Absolutely senseless __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-17-18, 08:50 AM	#8
Aoogahman Seaman Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 31 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I took a stroll through the Ling about 17 years ago and took a bunch of photos. She was in pretty good shape at that time. It's very disturbing when people pull that kind of crap! __________________ Now where did I put that clock key?

08-17-18, 09:00 AM	#9
Mike Abberton Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 135 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Sorry if this violates any forum rules, but... What a bunch of a-holes.

08-17-18, 11:45 AM	#10
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I do not understand the crime of vandalism. What sort of person garners a personal benefit by just destroying stuff? That takes a disturbing mindset __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-24-18, 03:29 PM	#11
l02turner Soundman Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Va Posts: 143 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	WW2 Sub Sunk by Vandals While I agree keel hauling is too good for them (it really is a nasty form of punishment) and I wouldn't want them near the boat again either unless it was on the exterior chipping old paint on a hot summer day, and the suggestion about making them pay for damages is also good as long as their parents money isn't involved is also good. I wish there was a way to make them understand what they were destroying, but I suspect that only happens in the movies. I think the physical punishment is what endures. For all we know, these kids (if it was kids) may come from money and a fine or damages means little to them. I'd like to see the physical punishment (hard work) to far exceed the value of what was damaged. I suspect most of what was damaged is impossible to place a value on. Maybe make them perform maintenance on the boat for the rest of their lives? Last edited by l02turner; 09-24-18 at 04:07 PM.

09-24-18, 03:35 PM	#12
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As I understand it this was more than just vandalism. I read somewhere that the sinking may have been to cover the theft of 4 valuable bronze plaques. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

09-25-18, 05:29 AM	#14
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Bring back the stocks I say. A disgraceful act. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-25-18, 07:49 AM	#15
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Somebody should get Paul Allen involved. He doesn't even have to search for the Ling. Surely he has the funds and interest to move it to someplace that it would be wanted? __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!