Project Nazi

mapuc · 03-18-18, 03:28 PM

Throughout the years I have seen several types of documentary about WWII, Hitler and the ideology Nazism

Right now there is a series on Viasat History calling Project Nazi
it's a great documentary about this ideology

Have missed some episode and missed half of it in some episode.

It stand clear for me now

Nazism had a much more impact on the German society than I ever thought they had
In every aspect of the society they had a huge influence.

From the little ones who became members of the Hitler Jugend
to the eldest who may have become member of some Hitler-elder thing.
To the culture and literature,
In science and
The justice

Hitler and Nazism had also such an impact on the people that some removed the Icon of Jesus and replaced it with Hitler
And they prayed to Hitler
(seen and heard on another documentary about Hitler)

Unser Führer geheiligt
dein Name....
And so on

Wonder if other ideology and leaders have had same impact on the society and the people.

Markus

Eichhörnchen · 03-18-18, 03:56 PM

Stalin certainly did; these people constructed a cult around themselves, willingly perpetuated by self-serving acolytes

mapuc · 03-18-18, 05:18 PM

While writing I was thinking about China and Mao Tse Tung.

Was wondering if he and the communist party had same influent on the Chinese people and the society like the Hitler and the nazi party had.

I was not exactly sure, that's why I wrote

"Wonder if other ideology and leaders have had same impact on the society and the people"

And you gave me the answer
They did. Both in China and in Soviet.

Markus

Jimbuna · 03-19-18, 04:06 AM

Hitler was different to the Russian and Chenese leaders.....he led his country/people to almost total annihilation.

STEED · 03-19-18, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Hitler was different to the Russian and Chenese leaders.....he led his country/people to almost total annihilation.

Some would say he achieve his goal, masters of Europe they are now.

Reece · 03-19-18, 06:47 AM

IMO he was a traitor to his own people, Germany was such a beautiful country, what a waste!!

Commander Wallace · 03-19-18, 07:07 AM

There are a number of examples in history on opposite side of the spectrum. The one's mentioned here who were reviled. An example might be the " little rocket man " of NK and his predecessors. Other leaders that served their respective countries in times of desperate need like Winston Churchill, George Washington or Abe Lincoln were revered and highly honored.

Military leaders like battle hardened Generals and Admirals and Captains were also held in high regard. Unfortunately, the tabloid news era has elevated deeply flawed people / celebrities to a lofty status in society. The only claim to fame these people have is bad behavior and endless examples of self indulgence.

Catfish · 03-19-18, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Some would say he achieve his goal, masters of Europe they are now.

Well i'd say you helped, in a way.

STEED · 03-19-18, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Well i'd say you helped, in a way.

Indeed, loose the war and come out on top a few years later.

So get the EU to flatten the UK and we shall be back on top in 10 years.

Jimbuna · 03-19-18, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Some would say he achieve his goal, masters of Europe they are now.

In what way?

mapuc · 03-19-18, 03:53 PM

Going to derail the topic a little and talk more about the German people living in Germany the days Hitler came forward

What many people seems to forget these days

Is what situation Germany and the German people was in, when Hitler came forward in the end of the 20's. and when he became (forgot the English name for his title)

Many German saw him as a savior.

Furthermore

Many German was against him and the ideology he stood for
But they was afraid to speak open, so they just followed the others and raised their arms and yelled He.. Hitler.

A German at a meeting, could not know if the person on his left was against Hitler or not and the person on the left could not know if the person on his right was against Hitler or not.

Then there was those who stood up.

While others truly loved him.

The first part is more economic and the last part after Furthermore is more psychology

Markus

Falkirion · 03-19-18, 06:03 PM

Its all about the cult of personality that leaders establish.

We've seen it with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the Jong Il's and we're watching it happen now with Trump, Putin and Jinping. You can look throughout history and find powerful leaders who do whatever they can to attain power and then shape the country around what they value.

The one thing I admire Stalin for is the way he transformed Russia from poor farming country at the end of WW1 into a world power by the end of WW2. I'm not saying I admire the brutality of how this happened, just his conviction that Russia could be something more than it was.

03-18-18, 03:28 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Project Nazi Throughout the years I have seen several types of documentary about WWII, Hitler and the ideology Nazism Right now there is a series on Viasat History calling Project Nazi it's a great documentary about this ideology Have missed some episode and missed half of it in some episode. It stand clear for me now Nazism had a much more impact on the German society than I ever thought they had In every aspect of the society they had a huge influence. From the little ones who became members of the Hitler Jugend to the eldest who may have become member of some Hitler-elder thing. To the culture and literature, In science and The justice Hitler and Nazism had also such an impact on the people that some removed the Icon of Jesus and replaced it with Hitler And they prayed to Hitler (seen and heard on another documentary about Hitler) Unser Führer geheiligt dein Name.... And so on Wonder if other ideology and leaders have had same impact on the society and the people. Markus

03-18-18, 03:56 PM	#2
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,373 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Stalin certainly did; these people constructed a cult around themselves, willingly perpetuated by self-serving acolytes __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Hitler was different to the Russian and Chenese leaders.....he led his country/people to almost total annihilation. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	IMO he was a traitor to his own people, Germany was such a beautiful country, what a waste!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

03-18-18, 05:18 PM	#3
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	While writing I was thinking about China and Mao Tse Tung. Was wondering if he and the communist party had same influent on the Chinese people and the society like the Hitler and the nazi party had. I was not exactly sure, that's why I wrote "Wonder if other ideology and leaders have had same impact on the society and the people" And you gave me the answer They did. Both in China and in Soviet. Markus

03-19-18, 07:07 AM	#7
Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,294 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	There are a number of examples in history on opposite side of the spectrum. The one's mentioned here who were reviled. An example might be the " little rocket man " of NK and his predecessors. Other leaders that served their respective countries in times of desperate need like Winston Churchill, George Washington or Abe Lincoln were revered and highly honored. Military leaders like battle hardened Generals and Admirals and Captains were also held in high regard. Unfortunately, the tabloid news era has elevated deeply flawed people / celebrities to a lofty status in society. The only claim to fame these people have is bad behavior and endless examples of self indulgence.

03-19-18, 03:53 PM	#11
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Going to derail the topic a little and talk more about the German people living in Germany the days Hitler came forward What many people seems to forget these days Is what situation Germany and the German people was in, when Hitler came forward in the end of the 20's. and when he became (forgot the English name for his title) Many German saw him as a savior. Furthermore Many German was against him and the ideology he stood for But they was afraid to speak open, so they just followed the others and raised their arms and yelled He.. Hitler. A German at a meeting, could not know if the person on his left was against Hitler or not and the person on the left could not know if the person on his right was against Hitler or not. Then there was those who stood up. While others truly loved him. The first part is more economic and the last part after Furthermore is more psychology Markus

03-19-18, 06:03 PM	#12
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Its all about the cult of personality that leaders establish. We've seen it with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the Jong Il's and we're watching it happen now with Trump, Putin and Jinping. You can look throughout history and find powerful leaders who do whatever they can to attain power and then shape the country around what they value. The one thing I admire Stalin for is the way he transformed Russia from poor farming country at the end of WW1 into a world power by the end of WW2. I'm not saying I admire the brutality of how this happened, just his conviction that Russia could be something more than it was.