Harbour Locks LSH

swordfish1 · 05-19-16, 03:38 AM

When leaving harbours, do the lock gates open automatically as you approach or do you have to activate something or just wait?

THEBERBSTER · 05-19-16, 04:21 AM

Hi swordfish.
No, not automatically.
The gates are timed so you just need to approach carefully.
If you time it correctly at the right speed you can then enter as they begin to open.
Your initial thoughts are that if you are not close enough they will close on you as you are going through, but this will not happen as they have large merchants using the locks which are less maneuverable than you are.
Peter

swordfish1 · 05-19-16, 06:25 AM

Thanks, that's very helpful.

CaptBones · 05-19-16, 10:32 AM

But they are not triggered by your presence or approach to the gates.

They are timed and the "clock" starts when the game starts. The gates operate on a synchronized 4-minute and 2-minute cycle. Approach and wait for the gates to open, they will remain open for 4 minutes (if you are using locks with signal flags, there will be a 2-minute warning flag hoisted before they close again); the opposing gate on that lock will open 2 minutes after the first set closes.

If you are in a good position when the near gates open, you will have plenty of time to enter the lock at 1/3 ahead (2/3 if you really feel the need...watch for that 2-minute warning flag, if present) and stop engines as you cross the sill. A short 1/3 backing bell will stop you close enough to the far gate without risk of hitting it. Except at Brunsbuettel...you need to keep moving for quite a while to get to a good waiting point at the far gates.

swordfish1 · 05-20-16, 04:45 AM

Many thanks crewmates for the info. Just one more thought, how and when do you initiate the autoplot to leave the bases? At Kiel for instance, do you need to be stopped close to the exit gates or do you start the plot from the bunker? When I did this initially the plot was way out of line, crossing land etc.
Cheers!

THEBERBSTER · 05-20-16, 04:53 AM

Hi swordfish
The auto pilot does not work properly.
Like you said, it crosses land and does not plot where it should.
Peter

CaptBones · 05-20-16, 10:38 AM

But, I seem to recall that the Manual for LSH describes it about the same as it works in GWX with the Wilhelmshaven/St. Naz & etc. Schleuse MOD.

The entry point at Holtenau for the outbound Kanal "autopilot" is on the west side of the locks; you must be at or very near that point before asking the Navigator to plot the route. AFAIK, there isn't an "autopilot" for Wilhelmshaven or Stralsund.

In GWX, I have found that it seems to work better if you plot a course to the entry point when you're leaving the lock. Place a waypoint directly on the entry point and then ask the Navigator to plot the outbound "autopilot" course (same process for the inbound course when you return through Brunsbuettel).

HW3 · 05-20-16, 11:27 AM

There are two different ways of starting the autopilot that I know of. One require you to start it in the sub pen before moving. The other requires you to set it from a dot on the outbound side of the locks. I will admit it has been a long time since I used LSH3 so, I do not remember which one it uses.

05-19-16, 03:38 AM	#1
swordfish1 Gunner Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Skyrim Posts: 92 Downloads: 1172 Uploads: 0	Harbour Locks LSH When leaving harbours, do the lock gates open automatically as you approach or do you have to activate something or just wait?

05-19-16, 04:21 AM	#2
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi swordfish. No, not automatically. The gates are timed so you just need to approach carefully. If you time it correctly at the right speed you can then enter as they begin to open. Your initial thoughts are that if you are not close enough they will close on you as you are going through, but this will not happen as they have large merchants using the locks which are less maneuverable than you are. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

05-19-16, 06:25 AM	#3
swordfish1 Gunner Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Skyrim Posts: 92 Downloads: 1172 Uploads: 0	Harbour Locks Thanks, that's very helpful.

05-19-16, 10:32 AM	#4
CaptBones The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Rockton, IL Posts: 281 Downloads: 208 Uploads: 0	Yes...it is "automatic". But they are not triggered by your presence or approach to the gates. They are timed and the "clock" starts when the game starts. The gates operate on a synchronized 4-minute and 2-minute cycle. Approach and wait for the gates to open, they will remain open for 4 minutes (if you are using locks with signal flags, there will be a 2-minute warning flag hoisted before they close again); the opposing gate on that lock will open 2 minutes after the first set closes. If you are in a good position when the near gates open, you will have plenty of time to enter the lock at 1/3 ahead (2/3 if you really feel the need...watch for that 2-minute warning flag, if present) and stop engines as you cross the sill. A short 1/3 backing bell will stop you close enough to the far gate without risk of hitting it. Except at Brunsbuettel...you need to keep moving for quite a while to get to a good waiting point at the far gates.

05-20-16, 04:53 AM	#6
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi swordfish The auto pilot does not work properly. Like you said, it crosses land and does not plot where it should. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

05-20-16, 04:45 AM	#5
swordfish1 Gunner Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Skyrim Posts: 92 Downloads: 1172 Uploads: 0	Many thanks crewmates for the info. Just one more thought, how and when do you initiate the autoplot to leave the bases? At Kiel for instance, do you need to be stopped close to the exit gates or do you start the plot from the bunker? When I did this initially the plot was way out of line, crossing land etc. Cheers!

05-20-16, 10:38 AM	#7
CaptBones The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Rockton, IL Posts: 281 Downloads: 208 Uploads: 0	I haven't sailed from Kiel in LSH3... But, I seem to recall that the Manual for LSH describes it about the same as it works in GWX with the Wilhelmshaven/St. Naz & etc. Schleuse MOD. The entry point at Holtenau for the outbound Kanal "autopilot" is on the west side of the locks; you must be at or very near that point before asking the Navigator to plot the route. AFAIK, there isn't an "autopilot" for Wilhelmshaven or Stralsund. In GWX, I have found that it seems to work better if you plot a course to the entry point when you're leaving the lock. Place a waypoint directly on the entry point and then ask the Navigator to plot the outbound "autopilot" course (same process for the inbound course when you return through Brunsbuettel).

05-20-16, 11:27 AM	#8
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	There are two different ways of starting the autopilot that I know of. One require you to start it in the sub pen before moving. The other requires you to set it from a dot on the outbound side of the locks. I will admit it has been a long time since I used LSH3 so, I do not remember which one it uses. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk