Sosus/Iceland

Hawk66 · 02-14-16, 03:08 AM

After reading this, I'm wondering how P-3/P-8s 'hunting' Russian submarines. I've thought Sosus is dead or is the plan to reactivate that too?

Otherwise isn't it rather expensive and inefficient to cluster the Atlantic with sonobuys when you have no rough idea about the locations of subs?

Oberon · 02-14-16, 07:30 AM

Pretty sure that SOSUS is still active.

Jimbuna · 02-14-16, 09:19 AM

I can't find anything on it post September 2005 (upgraded).

Platapus · 02-14-16, 10:24 AM

In my best Bill Clinton imitation, that would depend on what dead means.

SOSUS as a program no longer exists, so in one interpretation SOSUS is dead.

However, IUSS (Integrated Underwater Surveillance System) is alive and doing well.

The Navy being what they are, and the underwater surveillance people being what they are, there is naturally not a lot of public information on the IUSS.

After Walker, this type if information is strictly limited to help prevent another Walker/SOSUS incident.

Hawk66 · 02-14-16, 11:10 AM

Ok, was not aware of IUSS.

But it sounds reasonable, without such a system, the investment would not make mauch sense...

It's really crazy how the patterns of the cold war emerge again. If you would have somebody told that in the 90's he would think you would be insane...

Jimbuna · 02-15-16, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk66

It's really crazy how the patterns of the cold war emerge again. If you would have somebody told that in the 90's he would think you would be insane...

Probably adequately sums up what some parts of the world are like these days.

02-14-16, 03:08 AM	#1
Hawk66 Commodore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 609 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Sosus/Iceland After reading this, I'm wondering how P-3/P-8s 'hunting' Russian submarines. I've thought Sosus is dead or is the plan to reactivate that too? Otherwise isn't it rather expensive and inefficient to cluster the Atlantic with sonobuys when you have no rough idea about the locations of subs?

02-14-16, 09:19 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I can't find anything on it post September 2005 (upgraded). __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-14-16, 10:24 AM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	In my best Bill Clinton imitation, that would depend on what dead means. SOSUS as a program no longer exists, so in one interpretation SOSUS is dead. However, IUSS (Integrated Underwater Surveillance System) is alive and doing well. The Navy being what they are, and the underwater surveillance people being what they are, there is naturally not a lot of public information on the IUSS. After Walker, this type if information is strictly limited to help prevent another Walker/SOSUS incident. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-14-16, 07:30 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Pretty sure that SOSUS is still active.

02-14-16, 11:10 AM	#5
Hawk66 Commodore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 609 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Ok, was not aware of IUSS. But it sounds reasonable, without such a system, the investment would not make mauch sense... It's really crazy how the patterns of the cold war emerge again. If you would have somebody told that in the 90's he would think you would be insane...