Weather in SH4

Caustic · 08-23-13, 04:25 PM

Does anyone know what files control the weather class and the probability of any given weather occuring, such as clear, cloudy, and overcast? Also trying to adjust fog.

shegeek72 · 07-27-15, 01:29 AM

I'd like to know this myself. The constant exact same weather forecast in SH4 for days on end doesn't seem realistic to me.

fitzcarraldo · 07-27-15, 07:34 AM

All depend of your mods. And don´t use high TC. With a moderate TC and ISE as environment in TMO RSRDC, I have a relative good weather change.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

aanker · 07-27-15, 11:24 AM

Yes, no high TC is best.

However as stated, sometimes after long periods of high TC the weather seems to get out of sync. Midway to Empire waters for example at 2048x usually will do it.

If my crew doesn't have their rain gear on and it is raining, it is a sign that the weather is out of sync and needs attention. (known bug) Ask for a weather report if your install has that function and compare what it says to the conditions you see.

When this happens I reset the weather, force myself to not sink anything for 24 hours (so I don't have an unfair advantage if it is foggy etc), and resume my patrol.

In a stock game Ctrl+N resets the weather to calm seas, clear skies, & no fog. I do it on the bridge; if no result I go below - F2, and return to the bridge F5 to see if it worked, then go to the Nav map and begin the 24 hour waiting period at no more than 250x.

The mega mods may have a different reset key combo than Ctrl+N.

Happy Hunting!

Captain Dave · 07-27-15, 07:59 PM

There are fog adjustments in SCENE.dat. Rain, wind and clouds, etc. also have changeable values there.

shegeek72 · 07-27-15, 11:52 PM

I did notice that running RFB the weather didn't change in 12 days, whereas stock 1.5 with just GFO weather has gone from calm to stormy in about the same amount of time.

merc4ulfate · 08-15-15, 11:09 AM

Run ISP 2.6. It creates some real fine weather for you.

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157

1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
FJB_Navigation_Maps
FJB Color Navigation Map
Gyoraitei
11 New Ships + Yamato AA Fix by Miner1436
Ship pack 1
SMALLER SEA PLANTS SMALL
SMALLER SEABED ROCKS
#5 Depthcharge Sound
#2 Other Clouds
Webster's Eliminate Floating Plankton for v1.4 and v1.5
Aircraft_reflections
Hull_Numbers
TMO Smoke Mod
Classe_Balao_CamoTri
MAP_TABLE_MOD_1,3
TMO+RSRDC missions pack

TorpX · 08-15-15, 11:57 PM

I've had weather 'stick' like everybody else.

I really don't think it has anything to do with mods. In fact, I've had both highly variable weather, and lousy constant weather, in the same patrol.

My suspicion is that the game uses criteria in the campaign files, and they may lack consistency. I haven't felt like delving into RSRDC to check the theory, though.

jaxa · 08-16-15, 01:28 AM

I play OM+OMEGU with More Frequent Weather Mod from Traveller and have noticed the same: starting patrol at 1st September up to 22nd September I didn't see any cloud, always clean sky. Wind changes from 0 to 15, sea from completely calm to big waves, but always with pretty blue sky. I think it's rather not typical weather at North Atlantic during September.

Reinhard Hardegen · 09-13-15, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Dave

There are fog adjustments in SCENE.dat. Rain, wind and clouds, etc. also have changeable values there.

What program will open the .dat file?

aanker · 09-13-15, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reinhard Hardegen

What program will open the .dat file?

S3D will, it is a wonderful program available here:

http://s3d.skwas.com/downloads.aspx

Happy Hunting!

Reinhard Hardegen · 09-13-15, 12:46 PM

Thank you aanker

08-23-13, 04:25 PM	#1
Caustic Torpedoman Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cape May, New Jersey Posts: 118 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 6	Weather in SH4 Does anyone know what files control the weather class and the probability of any given weather occuring, such as clear, cloudy, and overcast? Also trying to adjust fog. __________________

07-27-15, 07:34 AM	#3
fitzcarraldo Argentinian Skipper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Somewhere between Buenos Aires and the Bungo Suido Posts: 5,318 Downloads: 3346 Uploads: 0	All depend of your mods. And don´t use high TC. With a moderate TC and ISE as environment in TMO RSRDC, I have a relative good weather change. Best regards. Fitzcarraldo __________________ *My subject is War, and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity - Wilfred Owen.*

07-27-15, 11:24 AM	#4
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	Yes, no high TC is best. However as stated, sometimes after long periods of high TC the weather seems to get out of sync. Midway to Empire waters for example at 2048x usually will do it. If my crew doesn't have their rain gear on and it is raining, it is a sign that the weather is out of sync and needs attention. (known bug) Ask for a weather report if your install has that function and compare what it says to the conditions you see. When this happens I reset the weather, force myself to not sink anything for 24 hours (so I don't have an unfair advantage if it is foggy etc), and resume my patrol. In a stock game Ctrl+N resets the weather to calm seas, clear skies, & no fog. I do it on the bridge; if no result I go below - F2, and return to the bridge F5 to see if it worked, then go to the Nav map and begin the 24 hour waiting period at no more than 250x. The mega mods may have a different reset key combo than Ctrl+N. Happy Hunting! __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day." Last edited by aanker; 07-27-15 at 11:53 AM.

08-15-15, 11:09 AM	#7
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Run ISP 2.6. It creates some real fine weather for you. Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5 1_TMO_25_small_patch RSRDC_TMO_V502 RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1 Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC FJB_Navigation_Maps FJB Color Navigation Map Gyoraitei 11 New Ships + Yamato AA Fix by Miner1436 Ship pack 1 SMALLER SEA PLANTS SMALL SMALLER SEABED ROCKS #5 Depthcharge Sound #2 Other Clouds Webster's Eliminate Floating Plankton for v1.4 and v1.5 Aircraft_reflections Hull_Numbers TMO Smoke Mod Classe_Balao_CamoTri MAP_TABLE_MOD_1,3 TMO+RSRDC missions pack __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

08-15-15, 11:57 PM	#8
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I've had weather 'stick' like everybody else. I really don't think it has anything to do with mods. In fact, I've had both highly variable weather, and lousy constant weather, in the same patrol. My suspicion is that the game uses criteria in the campaign files, and they may lack consistency. I haven't felt like delving into RSRDC to check the theory, though.

07-27-15, 01:29 AM	#2
shegeek72 WAV Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: somewhere in the Pacific Posts: 603 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	I'd like to know this myself. The constant exact same weather forecast in SH4 for days on end doesn't seem realistic to me.

07-27-15, 07:59 PM	#5
Captain Dave Officer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Herriman, Utah Posts: 247 Downloads: 398 Uploads: 3	There are fog adjustments in SCENE.dat. Rain, wind and clouds, etc. also have changeable values there.

07-27-15, 11:52 PM	#6
shegeek72 WAV Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: somewhere in the Pacific Posts: 603 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	I did notice that running RFB the weather didn't change in 12 days, whereas stock 1.5 with just GFO weather has gone from calm to stormy in about the same amount of time.

08-16-15, 01:28 AM	#9
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	I play OM+OMEGU with More Frequent Weather Mod from Traveller and have noticed the same: starting patrol at 1st September up to 22nd September I didn't see any cloud, always clean sky. Wind changes from 0 to 15, sea from completely calm to big waves, but always with pretty blue sky. I think it's rather not typical weather at North Atlantic during September. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

09-13-15, 12:46 PM	#12
Reinhard Hardegen Raiders of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: U-123 (CA7225) Posts: 495 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	Thank you aanker __________________ A quote from Donitz; “The reason that the American Navy does so well in wartime is that war is chaos, and the Americans practice chaos on a daily basis.” “For the lessons one fails to learn during peacetime, one pays a high price in war.”