how can people misinterpret simple information ?

mapuc · 07-09-15, 04:49 PM

Some years ago we could hear and see following in a Danish news program

"95% of bodily harm crime is committed by persons of non-Danish origin."

Some hours later, I could read comments on FB. and many of these comments made me wonder.

Are many of my friends or their friends bad in math ? Or they interprets the information based on their political beliefs

Here are what many wrote.

"Here my friends are the evidence which many people on the left refuses to see, 95 % of our foreigners are criminal"

No it does not say that 95 % of our foreigners are criminal, it says, 95 % of this type of crime is committed by foreigners and that's a big different.

(This thread is NOT about how criminal our foreigners are. It's a thread about how people interpreting the information they get)

Markus

Schroeder · 07-09-15, 04:53 PM

People will see what they want to see.
Selective perception....

Stealhead · 07-09-15, 06:38 PM

Of course they can also provide information that is selectively worded in order to place a slant on what is being said.

Take anything said during a campaign various groups will take what is said and place their positive or negative slant to it. Same with statistics released by a government agency or private research (both of which in and of themselves may be trying to lead) another group can take that data and go to town.

mapuc · 07-09-15, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Of course they can also provide information that is selectively worded in order to place a slant on what is being said.

Take anything said during a campaign various groups will take what is said and place their positive or negative slant to it. Same with statistics released by a government agency or private research (both of which in and of themselves may be trying to lead) another group can take that data and go to town.

Could very well be and yes any statistics should be taken by a grant of salt.

This statistic I mentioned 95 % is based on the trials and sentenced in these cases in 95 % of all trials the person, accused of the crime was of non-Danish origin.

Still this does not mean that 95 % of our foreigners are criminal.

About 12-15 % of our foreigners have been convicted(year 2012)

Markus

Platapus · 07-10-15, 02:45 PM

Despite all the money spent on education, almost half of the students are still below average.

Stealhead · 07-11-15, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Despite all the money spent on education, almost half of the students are still below average.

Just the other day at a family gathering a cousins stepson who is in AP history thought that Christopher Columbus was from Columbia. He had no idea why WWII or WWI was fought or why we celebrate the 4th of July nor who King George was.

I think a blood vessel in my brain exploded but that might have been because while this conversation was held I firmly gripped my fork and it made my hand go numb. I might need a CT scan. But I did manage to give a brief history of the world from Renaissance to modern times.

Below is a simple visual guide to my reaction;

em2nought · 07-11-15, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Just the other day at a family gathering a cousins stepson who is in AP history thought that Christopher Columbus was from Columbia. He had no idea why WWII or WWI was fought or why we celebrate the 4th of July nor who King George was.

I think a blood vessel in my brain exploded but that might have been because while this conversation was held I firmly gripped my fork and it made my hand go numb. I might need a CT scan. But I did manage to give a brief history of the world from Renaissance to modern times.

Below is a simple visual guide to my reaction;

He probably learned the most important parts taught now in history, like the USA is evil, and capitalism is bad.

u crank · 07-11-15, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Just the other day at a family gathering a cousins stepson who is in AP history thought that Christopher Columbus was from Columbia. He had no idea why WWII or WWI was fought or why we celebrate the 4th of July nor who King George was.

I think a blood vessel in my brain exploded but that might have been because while this conversation was held I firmly gripped my fork and it made my hand go numb. I might need a CT scan. But I did manage to give a brief history of the world from Renaissance to modern times.

If it isn't on Facebook or Twitter, how are they ever gonna know.

Onkel Neal · 07-11-15, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Could very well be and yes any statistics should be taken by a grant of salt.

This statistic I mentioned 95 % is based on the trials and sentenced in these cases in 95 % of all trials the person, accused of the crime was of non-Danish origin.

Still this does not mean that 95 % of our foreigners are criminal.

About 12-15 % of our foreigners have been convicted(year 2012)

Markus

The important point of the statistic: your country is welcoming in immigrants and "95% of bodily harm crime in your country is committed by some of those immigrants."

If you did not have those immigrants in your country, think of how much less bodily harm crime there would be to put up with.

I know, the PC police are going to say, "Neal doesn't like immigrants." Dumb and not true, I like legal immigrants, and if the crime went down with their entry into my country, I would like them even more.

August · 07-11-15, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Despite all the money spent on education, almost half of the students are still below average.

Almost half of anything is always going to be below average...

Sailor Steve · 07-11-15, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Almost half of anything is always going to be below average...

Though Stealhead may have missed it, I think that was Platapus's point in the first place.

Eichhörnchen · 07-11-15, 01:54 PM

Q: If we had more than one "Platapus" on the forum, could we call them the Platapi?

August · 07-11-15, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eichhornchen

Q: If we had more than one "Platapus" on the forum, could we call them the Platapi?

Yes and a herd of Platapi is called a Platapod.

Stealhead · 07-11-15, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by em2nought

He probably learned the most important parts taught now in history, like the USA is evil, and capitalism is bad.

No he didn't say any of that he just didn't know much. He plans on joining the military so obviously if he where taught that the US was evil he either doesn't believe it or has a rebellious personality.

What school are your young relatives going to? Berkeley?

Stealhead · 07-11-15, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Though Stealhead may have missed it, I think that was Platapus's point in the first place.

I got the point of Platpus post. This was an example of a below average kid. He dosent seem to hang around the other younger family members(being blood relation to myself) so he's the below average kid avoiding the superior peers.

07-09-15, 04:49 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	how can people misinterpret simple information ? Some years ago we could hear and see following in a Danish news program "95% of bodily harm crime is committed by persons of non-Danish origin." Some hours later, I could read comments on FB. and many of these comments made me wonder. Are many of my friends or their friends bad in math ? Or they interprets the information based on their political beliefs Here are what many wrote. "Here my friends are the evidence which many people on the left refuses to see, 95 % of our foreigners are criminal" No it does not say that 95 % of our foreigners are criminal, it says, 95 % of this type of crime is committed by foreigners and that's a big different. (This thread is NOT about how criminal our foreigners are. It's a thread about how people interpreting the information they get) Markus

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Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	People will see what they want to see. Selective perception.... __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Despite all the money spent on education, almost half of the students are still below average. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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07-09-15, 06:38 PM	#3
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Of course they can also provide information that is selectively worded in order to place a slant on what is being said. Take anything said during a campaign various groups will take what is said and place their positive or negative slant to it. Same with statistics released by a government agency or private research (both of which in and of themselves may be trying to lead) another group can take that data and go to town.