milk cow mission?

rotenalert · 03-17-15, 08:32 PM

hallo sub sim!! i have a a question abaout the milk cows..
is there a mod who can let you do missions as a milk cow..?
e.x. to gow in a particuler area and resuply other subs?

UKönig · 03-17-15, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotenalert

hallo sub sim!! i have a a question abaout the milk cows..
is there a mod who can let you do missions as a milk cow..?
e.x. to gow in a particuler area and resuply other subs?

That's like hanging a big target around your neck and inviting the allies to take shots at you.
Maybe if you became an extremely successful supply boat captain you could change the course of the war and bring the BdU to victory, but since the allies had broken the enigma codes, how long do you think it would take before they crafted a mission to destroy all U-supply boats and yours in particular. I rather think it's dangerous enough just with a 'normal' boat as it is.

rotenalert · 03-18-15, 08:40 AM

yes i know.. but i think is kind of interesting to have to manage this mission and avoid planes and destroiers.after tha its allready difficult to survive after '43 with 100% realism and hardcore fixies, imagin to get and a supplie mission...

ReallyDedPoet · 03-18-15, 08:45 AM

Welcome to SUBSIM rotenalert

In all of my years here I don't think I have heard someone make such a request. But to each his\her own

u crank · 03-18-15, 08:48 AM

Welcome to SubSim rotenalert.

Nemo66 · 03-18-15, 09:02 AM

I've seen a lot of requests for getting supplied by a milk-cow....but never i saw somebody who wanted to play one !

Maybe he should get an award for that

Aktungbby · 03-18-15, 11:17 AM

rotenalert!

jakjack · 03-18-15, 12:08 PM

What a cool idea. I'd never have the gumption to try it, but kudos for originality!

UKönig · 03-18-15, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo66

I've seen a lot of requests for getting supplied by a milk-cow....but never i saw somebody who wanted to play one !

Maybe he should get an award for that

Oh he'll get an award all right
I hope he doesn't mind if it's "posthumous"

rotenalert · 03-18-15, 07:53 PM

o hell for this i like sub sim community!!!!
thnx gays
maybe i am a too risky ''captain''or crazy but the submarines had and other missions except from sinking ships.. who knows maybe some day i can create a mod for this missions.. but i am biggle rat to the bone fo now..
a very interesting idea also is to launche mins and mining areas or torpor them out!
(sorry for my english)LOL.

Doolar · 03-18-15, 08:02 PM

I think that's a great idea ! What a challenge , the ideas , mods and innovations just keep coming , even after 10 years . you got'a love it !

UKönig · 03-18-15, 08:33 PM

Paraphrased and summarized from one of my U-boat texts, here's what they have to say about the supply submarine...

In the early war, Uboats had been resupplied at sea by surface tankers, but as the war dragged on, these were quickly hunted down. From Sept. 1940 to April, 1941 Germany lost 5, one of which checked in at over 10,000 tons. By Dec. 1941 tanker losses had become so severe that they were withdrawn from service until another means could be developed to resupply U-boats while at sea.
The answer seemed to be the supply submarine, affectionately known as 'the milch cow'. These Type XIV (15) boats were 1,688 tons, had a range of 12,300 miles and carried 720 tons of diesel fuel in addition to their own supplies. Ten of these boats were laid down in 1941 and came on-stream in 1942.
Tasked with meeting up with patrolling u-boats at prearranged co-ordinates, the milch cow could restock a U-boat with fuel, torpedoes, and/or other ammunition, fresh food, drinking water, medical equipment or supplies, even evacuate injured sailors and swap with viable crewmembers.
By far, the largest number of boats operational was the Type VII, 517 tons, and with a limited range of about 7,000 miles. But the distance from Lorient to Halifax is about 2,500 miles and to New York, about 3,000 miles, and when assigned to those areas, the type 7s had barely made it to their patrol billets, when they were forced to return.
The Milch Cows were to remove or reduce this handicap, and when sinkings declined in the American coastal waters and patrols were assigned to areas farther away, thanks be to the milch cows that allowed the type 7s to continue battle operations.

Tupolev · 03-18-15, 09:29 PM

Step 1: Choose a IXD2
Step 2: Remove Deck Gun
Step 3: Fire all torpedoes when departing from port
Step 4: Travel to assigned Patrol Grid
Step 5: Stay at patrol grid for 20 Days, surfaced, and continually transmit patrol reports to BdU.

Try to stay alive!

Aktungbby · 03-18-15, 10:33 PM

AS SHIII is trouble enough with GWX; being a Type XIV U-boat modification of the Type IXD, designed to resupply other U-boats. Milchkühe (pl.)" (milk cows) is an absolute exercise in suicide. The milk cows were priority targets for Allied forces, as sinking one milk cow would effectively curtail the operations of several regular U-Boats and force them to return home for supplies. Ultra intercepts provided information concerning sailing and routing, and this, coupled with improved Allied radar and air coverage in the North Atlantic, eliminated most of them during 1943. By the end of the war all ten had been sunk. Milk cow duty was especially hazardous; 289 sailors were killed out of an estimated complement of 530–576 men. They had no torpedo tubes nor deck gun, and carried only antiaircraft armament. In hastily examining the demise of the individual boats, approx. half the captains appear to have survived. [WIKI]
Ten boats of this type were commissioned:U-459, commissioned 15 November 1941, scuttled 24 July 1943

U-460, commissioned 24 December 1941, sunk 4 October 1943
U-461, commissioned 30 January 1942, sunk 30 July 1943
U-462, commissioned 5 March 1942, sunk 30 July 1943
U-463, commissioned 2 April 1942, sunk 15 May 1943
U-464, commissioned 30 April 1942, scuttled 20 August 1942
U-487, commissioned 21 December 1942, sunk 13 July 1943
U-488, commissioned 1 February 1943, sunk 26 April 1944
U-489, commissioned 8 March 1943, sunk 4 August 1943
U-490, commissioned 27 March 1943, sunk 12 June 1944 U-459 sinking...par for the course.

Jimbuna · 03-19-15, 06:29 AM

Welcome to SubSim rotenalert

03-17-15, 08:32 PM	#1
rotenalert Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 6 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	milk cow mission? hallo sub sim!! i have a a question abaout the milk cows.. is there a mod who can let you do missions as a milk cow..? e.x. to gow in a particuler area and resuply other subs?

03-18-15, 08:45 AM	#4
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Welcome to SUBSIM rotenalert In all of my years here I don't think I have heard someone make such a request. But to each his\her own __________________ Back in the Day

03-18-15, 08:48 AM	#5
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,744 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Welcome to SubSim rotenalert. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

03-18-15, 11:17 AM	#7
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,996 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! rotenalert! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

03-18-15, 12:08 PM	#8
jakjack Seaman Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York Posts: 39 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	What a cool idea. I'd never have the gumption to try it, but kudos for originality! __________________ In the town where I was born Lived a man who sailed to sea And he told us of his life In the land of submarines

03-18-15, 08:40 AM	#3
rotenalert Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 6 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	yes i know.. but i think is kind of interesting to have to manage this mission and avoid planes and destroiers.after tha its allready difficult to survive after '43 with 100% realism and hardcore fixies, imagin to get and a supplie mission...

03-18-15, 09:02 AM	#6
Nemo66 Bosun Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: munich, germany Posts: 68 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I've seen a lot of requests for getting supplied by a milk-cow....but never i saw somebody who wanted to play one ! Maybe he should get an award for that

03-18-15, 07:53 PM	#10
rotenalert Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 6 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	o hell for this i like sub sim community!!!! thnx gays maybe i am a too risky ''captain''or crazy but the submarines had and other missions except from sinking ships.. who knows maybe some day i can create a mod for this missions.. but i am biggle rat to the bone fo now.. a very interesting idea also is to launche mins and mining areas or torpor them out! (sorry for my english)LOL.

03-18-15, 08:02 PM	#11
Doolar Expert Shipsinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baltimore,Md./ CA45 Posts: 914 Downloads: 360 Uploads: 0	I think that's a great idea ! What a challenge , the ideas , mods and innovations just keep coming , even after 10 years . you got'a love it !

03-18-15, 08:33 PM	#12
UKönig Captain Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 495 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	the milch cows Paraphrased and summarized from one of my U-boat texts, here's what they have to say about the supply submarine... In the early war, Uboats had been resupplied at sea by surface tankers, but as the war dragged on, these were quickly hunted down. From Sept. 1940 to April, 1941 Germany lost 5, one of which checked in at over 10,000 tons. By Dec. 1941 tanker losses had become so severe that they were withdrawn from service until another means could be developed to resupply U-boats while at sea. The answer seemed to be the supply submarine, affectionately known as 'the milch cow'. These Type XIV (15) boats were 1,688 tons, had a range of 12,300 miles and carried 720 tons of diesel fuel in addition to their own supplies. Ten of these boats were laid down in 1941 and came on-stream in 1942. Tasked with meeting up with patrolling u-boats at prearranged co-ordinates, the milch cow could restock a U-boat with fuel, torpedoes, and/or other ammunition, fresh food, drinking water, medical equipment or supplies, even evacuate injured sailors and swap with viable crewmembers. By far, the largest number of boats operational was the Type VII, 517 tons, and with a limited range of about 7,000 miles. But the distance from Lorient to Halifax is about 2,500 miles and to New York, about 3,000 miles, and when assigned to those areas, the type 7s had barely made it to their patrol billets, when they were forced to return. The Milch Cows were to remove or reduce this handicap, and when sinkings declined in the American coastal waters and patrols were assigned to areas farther away, thanks be to the milch cows that allowed the type 7s to continue battle operations. __________________ Because I'm the captain, that's why!

03-18-15, 09:29 PM	#13
Tupolev Hauptman Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: FL410 Posts: 174 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Step 1: Choose a IXD2 Step 2: Remove Deck Gun Step 3: Fire all torpedoes when departing from port Step 4: Travel to assigned Patrol Grid Step 5: Stay at patrol grid for 20 Days, surfaced, and continually transmit patrol reports to BdU. Try to stay alive!

03-18-15, 10:33 PM	#14
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,996 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	AS SHIII is trouble enough with GWX; being a Type XIV U-boat modification of the Type IXD, designed to resupply other U-boats. Milchkühe (pl.)" (milk cows) is an absolute exercise in suicide. The milk cows were priority targets for Allied forces, as sinking one milk cow would effectively curtail the operations of several regular U-Boats and force them to return home for supplies. Ultra intercepts provided information concerning sailing and routing, and this, coupled with improved Allied radar and air coverage in the North Atlantic, eliminated most of them during 1943. By the end of the war all ten had been sunk. Milk cow duty was especially hazardous; 289 sailors were killed out of an estimated complement of 530–576 men. They had no torpedo tubes nor deck gun, and carried only antiaircraft armament. In hastily examining the demise of the individual boats, approx. half the captains appear to have survived. [WIKI] Ten boats of this type were commissioned:U-459, commissioned 15 November 1941, scuttled 24 July 1943 U-460, commissioned 24 December 1941, sunk 4 October 1943 U-461, commissioned 30 January 1942, sunk 30 July 1943 U-462, commissioned 5 March 1942, sunk 30 July 1943 U-463, commissioned 2 April 1942, sunk 15 May 1943 U-464, commissioned 30 April 1942, scuttled 20 August 1942 U-487, commissioned 21 December 1942, sunk 13 July 1943 U-488, commissioned 1 February 1943, sunk 26 April 1944 U-489, commissioned 8 March 1943, sunk 4 August 1943 U-490, commissioned 27 March 1943, sunk 12 June 1944 U-459 sinking...par for the course. __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

03-19-15, 06:29 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome to SubSim rotenalert __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!