Falklands War 2?

[Jimbuna]

I don't think so.

The Argentine economy is in a much worse state than ours so I should think any seller would be wanting cash in advance.

Argentina’s announcement that it plans to acquire 24 Saab Gripen fighter-bombers caused scarcely a ripple in the headlines last week, and so far has produced no reaction from Whitehall.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/...serious-threat

[Oberon]

I did ponder exactly what Argentina was going to use to buy these aircraft...then again, I pondered the same thing about us and those F-35s...

[Dread Knot]

Maybe they're desperate to make some sort of statement the time remaining before the new carrier Queen Elizabeth is operational?

Sees like sabre-rattling and nothing more - the Argentinians have nothing to gain from any use of force. It would isolate them even more internationally and financially and if they were successful at invading and occupying the islands they wouldn't gain access to any (potential) off-shore oil in anything like the short to mid-term.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I did ponder exactly what Argentina was going to use to buy these aircraft...then again, I pondered the same thing about us and those F-35s...

What ??
You already own F-35s




I ''saw'' one in York

[Jimbuna]

Pinched this comment from another forum....I liked it

Every so often a story pops up about the Argies buying some wonderful bit of kit that imperils the Falklands, and what happens? Nothing, because they are skint and spending money on the armed forces only seems to encourage the generals to want to run the country - so another reason to keep them on a tight lead.

Last time out the Spanish were alleged to be flogging them Mirages, before that the Israelis - both times nothing - Argentina is a strictly 'cash only' sales area.

Four Typhoons with 8 A/A missiles each and IAD? Goodbye first wave of attackers, by wave 3 the pilot vacancies in the FAA and Navy are astronomical and RAF pilots have time for tea and (South Atlantic) medals while a Squadron of the buggers has flown down via Asi to join the turkey-shoot

Of course they could send in the Ninja Suicide Penguins......but our Rockhoppers are nails

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Betonov

What ??
You already own F-35s




I ''saw'' one in York

Indeed we did

[Tchocky]

All depends on the next Top Gear, I'd say.

[Skybird]

The Gripen by no means is a bad plane, it really is not.

If the Argentinians show intent to acquire any means to secure a naval transport capacity that in any way could defeat a subsim menace from Britian, or their airmobile capacity would be evaluated by Britian to be capable enough to shuttle decisive combat force to the islands if the few Typhoons there (how many were it? 4?) got neutralised - then it is time to start worrying. I take it for granted that these days Britain does not have the military capacity anymore, the money and the will, to re-conquer the Falklands once again in case of Argentina or a Southamerican alliance managing to seize them and gain control of them.

Notoriously needing to invest one submarine's presence there, strategically is a costly affair in times of a significantly shrunk fleet. That sub cannot be at another location if it is at the Falklands, and not too many submarines are left in the fleet. The very longterm future of the Falklands maybe is not as certain as Britons today think. And the Americans will not lend a hand over those islands.

[Oberon]

That's the beautiful thing about a submarine, you don't know where it is until it surfaces.
HMS Astute might be sitting off the Falklands, or it might not, no-one other than Whitehall is going to know that...and I don't think the Argentinian secret service is that entrenched in Westminster.

[Betonov]

I think the Astute should surface somewhere near the Falklands, go BOOGA BOOGA, dive and head home. The search costs after that should tank the Argentine economy

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Betonov

I think the Astute should surface somewhere near the Falklands, go BOOGA BOOGA, dive and head home. The search costs after that should tank the Argentine economy

Makes a change after Falklands war when we spent most of our time running around after their submarines.

[nikimcbee]

Just do what I said before, send Steed down there with his war cricket bat and a bottle of whiskey. Dress him up like a Scottish warrior....

Tell him if he can't hold the island he will have a new life partner with the family name of Cameron.

I don't think Argentina will threaten you again.

[vanjast]

Originally Posted by Skybird

And the Americans will not lend a hand over those islands.

Remember this.. after they 'forced' you to join them in the middle east
I'm sure the spy planes/NSA might help... but I don't see any major US deployments.

The Gippen, at those ranges, are not much better than the Mirages they were using in War-1.
The Brits should just get a few older cheap, carrier adapted, Mig29 Fulcrums ... these will kick the Grippens ass big time. The fulcrums are better than the Grippen with electronic warfare equipment and it's sooooo much more maneuverable in close DF combat.

The world has yet to beat the old Fulcrum...

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Betonov

I think the Astute should surface somewhere near the Falklands, go BOOGA BOOGA, dive and head home. The search costs after that should tank the Argentine economy

Bonus if they fly a pirate flag.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Before this thread goes much further I'd like to remind the viewers that we do have a few Argentinian's on these boards, all (that I've communicated with) seem against further conflict no matter what their thoughts are on the disputed lands, and all are very nice people.

Carry on peeps.