DEFCOM 1

Armistead · 09-07-14, 09:30 AM

I missed this clip on FOX, retired Lt. General McInerney stating we should go to DEFCON 1 before 9/11. Now, if I caught him right, the reason why will be released in a book on a major network {which would have to be FOX} right before 9/11 explaining what's going on. I guess I missed the revelation, unless it's coming on FOX soon, seems there's a special on Benghazi tonight that will be revealing and I heard the retired SEALS were putting out a book.

Anyways, what cowards if they had real info that they would wait a few days before 9/11 to release in a book deal....

. Has FOX hit a new low? However, for discussion sake be fun to talk about and some other issues should all the conspiracy theories hold any truth.

I think this contains why some feel Obama is a traitor and covers him stacking the CIA, military, etc...with his crones. Course many feel he will create a crisis to become emperor of the US.

I haven't researched it, but what would happen if a president did fail to protect the US or became obviously inept or mad. How could he be removed or stripped of power in moments if needed.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/20...-remove-obama/

Oberon · 09-07-14, 10:21 AM

Didn't we have a conspiracy theories thread a while ago?

Armistead · 09-07-14, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Didn't we have a conspiracy theories thread a while ago?

Did we or are you conspiring against my thread? Anyways, I find it funny that a Lt. General wants us to go to DEFCOM 1 based on a book. I assume what he's referring is the special on Fox tonight about Benghazi.

fireftr18 · 09-07-14, 10:49 AM

There's always someone out there with a conspiracy theory about something. You're right, if they thought the information was plausible, then they should share it immediately. They're just looking for money from gullible, low information people who don't try to get the correct background info themselves.

Armistead · 09-07-14, 11:05 AM

Well, the one question is serious, is there a way to remove a derelict or mad president. For instance, say Palin was president and she woke up claiming God told her to nuke the entire ME right away and she's running for the red button screaming "come Lord Jesus."

Oberon · 09-07-14, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Well, the one question is serious, is there a way to remove a derelict or mad president. For instance, say Palin was president and she woke up claiming God told her to nuke the entire ME right away and she's running for the red button screaming "come Lord Jesus."

The 25th Amendment

Catfish · 09-07-14, 11:20 AM

Fox is a good broadcasting company.

If you believe the exact opposite of what they tell you, you are good to go.

mapuc · 09-07-14, 12:36 PM

Why does this person want USA go to DEFCON 1 ?

Didn't USA do that 9/11-2011 ?

Why would some terrorist attack USA or other allied on that day, where they expect such an attack.

Markus

Oberon · 09-07-14, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Why does this person want USA go to DEFCON 1 ?

Didn't USA do that 9/11-2011 ?

Why would some terrorist attack USA or other allied on that day, where they expect such an attack.

Markus

Nope, US went to DEFCON 3 on 9/11.

The DEFCON levels are very specific, and the highest the US has ever been is 2, and that was during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

DEFCON 5 - Lowest State of Readiness - Normal Readiness
DEFCON 4 - Increased intel watch and strengthened security measures - Above normal readiness
DEFCON 3 - Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness - Air Force ready to mobilise in 15 minutes
DEFCON 2 - Next step to nuclear war - Armed forces ready to deploy and engage within 6 hours
DEFCON 1 - Nuclear war is imminent - Maximum Readiness.

The DEFCON levels don't really cover terrorism above DEFCON 3, they are more for nation vs nation war, in particular war with the Warsaw Pact.

Wolferz · 09-07-14, 01:47 PM

Yes! Thermo-nuclear War

Oberon · 09-07-14, 01:54 PM

As an aside, the UK had a similar system back before our 'UK Threat levels' called the 'BIKINI States'. Honestly, I prefer the BIKINI states over this new fangled system which doesn't seem to move much beyond 'Severe'.

Bikini States:

WHITE - Situation stable, normal procedures apply.
BLACK - There has been an assessment of a possibility of an attack, but no defined target, it could also mean civil unrest meaning that safety cannot be guaranteed.
BLACK SPECIAL - There is an increased likelihood of attack but no defined target, can also mean potential terrorist threat.
AMBER - There has been information received and there is a substantial threat to government targets, it can also mean high alert which could mean a transition to war.
RED - Information has been received about an attack on a specific target, it can also mean that the UK is at war, especially if there is the risk of a nuclear strike.

NATO itself had a system-wide 'counter-surprise' alert level which went:

ORANGE - Triggered by intelligence reports suggesting that the enemy are preparing to launch an attack within 36 hours, NATO forces go to a high state of operational readiness, Communications networks, War HQs and Command and Recon manned, forces dispersed to operational locations.
SCARLET - Enemy attack expected within minutes, deployment as Orange level as permitted, SAM and AAA weapons manned, aircraft awaiting orders.

mapuc · 09-07-14, 02:15 PM

@ Oberon thank you for the information

I'm curious to what this book would reveal

Looking forward to hear about it.

I guess, as some of you mentioned it will be a book filled with conspiracy stuff

Markus

Stealhead · 09-07-14, 02:37 PM

Sounds like proaganda to me. I do not trust any of the current media networks in the US. Buch off Malarky.

Wolferz · 09-07-14, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Did we or are you conspiring against my thread? Anyways, I find it funny that a Lt. General wants us to go to DEFCOM 1 based on a book. I assume what he's referring is the special on Fox tonight about Benghazi.

Defcom 1? Is that where they all stick their fingers in their ears?

Fat fingering a dinky keypad on a cellphone is no way to post about the Defcon 1.

Let's all play Chicken Little and run around declaring that the sky is falling.

If they keep crying Wolf, they're going to be a nice chicken dinner.

The really funny part is, our local FOX affiliate station has the call letters WOLF.

Armistead · 09-07-14, 04:02 PM

What' shocking is how the fundy religious people I know on FB/Twitter go nuts over these things, memes, etc.....along with another super moon on the 8th, they're ready to get it on....I thought they would be happy with getting raptured on out first...

09-07-14, 09:30 AM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	DEFCOM 1 I missed this clip on FOX, retired Lt. General McInerney stating we should go to DEFCON 1 before 9/11. Now, if I caught him right, the reason why will be released in a book on a major network {which would have to be FOX} right before 9/11 explaining what's going on. I guess I missed the revelation, unless it's coming on FOX soon, seems there's a special on Benghazi tonight that will be revealing and I heard the retired SEALS were putting out a book. Anyways, what cowards if they had real info that they would wait a few days before 9/11 to release in a book deal..... Has FOX hit a new low? However, for discussion sake be fun to talk about and some other issues should all the conspiracy theories hold any truth. I think this contains why some feel Obama is a traitor and covers him stacking the CIA, military, etc...with his crones. Course many feel he will create a crisis to become emperor of the US. I haven't researched it, but what would happen if a president did fail to protect the US or became obviously inept or mad. How could he be removed or stripped of power in moments if needed. http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/20...-remove-obama/ __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-07-14, 10:49 AM	#4
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	There's always someone out there with a conspiracy theory about something. You're right, if they thought the information was plausible, then they should share it immediately. They're just looking for money from gullible, low information people who don't try to get the correct background info themselves. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

09-07-14, 11:05 AM	#5
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Well, the one question is serious, is there a way to remove a derelict or mad president. For instance, say Palin was president and she woke up claiming God told her to nuke the entire ME right away and she's running for the red button screaming "come Lord Jesus." __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-07-14, 01:47 PM	#10
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Shall we play a game? Yes! Thermo-nuclear War __________________ Tomorrow never comes

09-07-14, 04:02 PM	#15
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	What' shocking is how the fundy religious people I know on FB/Twitter go nuts over these things, memes, etc.....along with another super moon on the 8th, they're ready to get it on....I thought they would be happy with getting raptured on out first... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-07-14, 10:21 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Didn't we have a conspiracy theories thread a while ago?

09-07-14, 11:20 AM	#7
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Fox is a good broadcasting company. If you believe the exact opposite of what they tell you, you are good to go.

09-07-14, 12:36 PM	#8
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Why does this person want USA go to DEFCON 1 ? Didn't USA do that 9/11-2011 ? Why would some terrorist attack USA or other allied on that day, where they expect such an attack. Markus

09-07-14, 01:54 PM	#11
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	As an aside, the UK had a similar system back before our 'UK Threat levels' called the 'BIKINI States'. Honestly, I prefer the BIKINI states over this new fangled system which doesn't seem to move much beyond 'Severe'. Bikini States: WHITE - Situation stable, normal procedures apply. BLACK - There has been an assessment of a possibility of an attack, but no defined target, it could also mean civil unrest meaning that safety cannot be guaranteed. BLACK SPECIAL - There is an increased likelihood of attack but no defined target, can also mean potential terrorist threat. AMBER - There has been information received and there is a substantial threat to government targets, it can also mean high alert which could mean a transition to war. RED - Information has been received about an attack on a specific target, it can also mean that the UK is at war, especially if there is the risk of a nuclear strike. NATO itself had a system-wide 'counter-surprise' alert level which went: ORANGE - Triggered by intelligence reports suggesting that the enemy are preparing to launch an attack within 36 hours, NATO forces go to a high state of operational readiness, Communications networks, War HQs and Command and Recon manned, forces dispersed to operational locations. SCARLET - Enemy attack expected within minutes, deployment as Orange level as permitted, SAM and AAA weapons manned, aircraft awaiting orders.

09-07-14, 02:15 PM	#12
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	@ Oberon thank you for the information I'm curious to what this book would reveal Looking forward to hear about it. I guess, as some of you mentioned it will be a book filled with conspiracy stuff Markus

09-07-14, 02:37 PM	#13
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Sounds like proaganda to me. I do not trust any of the current media networks in the US. Buch off Malarky.