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Old 08-10-14, 09:38 AM   #1
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Default Did Tony Stewart murder fellow driver?

Just caught it on the news, seems the talk it was an accident. Looks like murder to me...

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Old 08-10-14, 09:50 AM   #2
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Sounds like he revved up just before he hit him, bit hard to tell whether it was just before or as he hit him. One does have to wonder what Ward was doing walking across the track like that though, should have stuck to the barriers.
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Old 08-10-14, 09:52 AM   #3
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I'd call it a good bet that there will be a manslaughter charge of some flavor.
Why did Ward get out of his car and run around pointing his finger like a crazy loon?
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Old 08-10-14, 10:19 AM   #4
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Typical for drivers to get out of their cars like that when angry, but very dangerous in this type of racing and track. Maybe we'll see action regarding it, in that drivers that do will suffer penalty in some way.

Most say Tony's actions are somewhat common, a way of talking back, to pass a mad driver and rev the engine to say move on. Sort of like a driver on the road gunning the engine when passing some idiot walking too far in the road. Like certain neighborhoods here, people walking the road won't walk on the edge, but far out in the road, basically making you have to cross the line to get by them....I've often gunned my engine when going around them...

Sad, Ward looks like a kid, but I didn't check his age, no doubt a teen.
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Sad, Ward looks like a kid, but I didn't check his age, no doubt a teen.
20 years old. Very unfortunate accident. But yea, you see that kind of thing in most types of racing when one driver feels he was bumped intentionally. Hopefully some rule changes will come of this.

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Like certain neighborhoods here, people walking the road won't walk on the edge, but far out in the road, basically making you have to cross the line to get by them....I've often gunned my engine when going around them...
What we get in our neighborhood are people waking 2 or 3 abreast in your lane. If a car is coming the opposite way, it makes for a dangerous situation.
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Stupid kid should have got off the damned track instead of trying to make a point by getting close. I thought the engine rev was an attempt to avoid contact actually.
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But yea, you see that kind of thing in most types of racing in the US when one driver feels he was bumped intentionally. Hopefully some rule changes will come of this.
Fixed that for you. Over here drivers get penalties when they cross the race track on foot and I've never seen an angry driver going after a still driving car here.

Wasn't there an incident like that in a NASCAR race not so long ago when a guy tried to stop another car and was dragged with it for a few yards?
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Fixed that for you. Over here drivers get penalties when they cross the race track on foot and I've never seen an angry driver going after a still driving car here.
Thanks. Actually when I think of it they were incidents that happened in the pits after the races. Confrontations for contact on the track. Good thing the drivers aren't armed.
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I don't think he murdered him...

You'd think it's common sense not to get out of your car in a situation like this...but...eh...
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I don't think he murdered him...

You'd think it's common sense not to get out of your car in a situation like this...but...eh...
You are learning Red October! (happy B'day) and exactly correct! Stay in the car it's the best protection! Crossing on foot during a non-yellow caution (if they even had one) or even a multi-lane freeway is a low percentage maneuver... None of the cars appeared to slow and it's dark out there # 14 did not appear to drift #13 into the wall to contact-cause the initial shunt. But the dark suit against the dark car in reduced night lighting to the oncoming #14, at speed, cannot have been optimal viewing. The body English on the victim's part suggests some uncoolness and temper; I would have climbed the fence and outta there myself and settled issues later.
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it was a accident the kid shouldn't have got out of the car to begin with,wearing a black firesuit at night the driver in front of tony just barely miss him when I watch the movie look like the kid even goes lower down the track after that car pass him and I did hear a engine rev but cant really honest say it from tony's or from the other cars around
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I don't think he meant to kill him. From the looks of it he just meant to rev the engine to tell him to eff off and didn't anticipate the fishtailing the of car. Tragic accident which will most likely result in charges of some kind.
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it was a accident the kid shouldn't have got out of the car to begin with,wearing a black firesuit at night the driver in front of tony just barely miss him when I watch the movie look like the kid even goes lower down the track after that car pass him and I did hear a engine rev but cant really honest say it from tony's or from the other cars around
yea, but one stupid act doesn't lead to another, more so in this case...I think it was an aggressive act, Tony's known for them......but it's also part of racing....As is being said, there should be severe penalty for those that leave their car, maybe they'll think more.....
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The engine rev doesn't happen until after contact and it looks like an evasive maneuver to swing the tail away to me. You can see the rear move track inward.
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The engine rev doesn't happen until after contact and it looks like an evasive maneuver to swing the tail away to me. You can see the rear move track inward.
Not to me, the engine fews seems to crank up just before he hit the guy. The bad thing, that was an extreme rev and speed jump to do under caution, you certainly wouldn't do it to avoid someone. Look who it just happened to be, the two that got together....I just hope it was an aggressive F you move that went bad..
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