Senna 20 years on

Oberon · 05-01-14, 06:09 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27204026

One of the best F1 drivers out there, a legend who will never be forgotten.

Jimbuna · 05-01-14, 06:16 AM

Spent many a Sunday at home and whilst living in Holland admiring his prowess behind the wheel

Lionclaw · 05-01-14, 06:43 AM

Don't forget Roland Ratzenberger, he died the day before!

Jimbuna · 05-01-14, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Imola circuit holds Senna silence

Thursday's commemorations began with a parade to remember both Senna and Austrian driver Roland Ratzenberger, who died in qualifying on the same track a day earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27226651

magic452 · 05-02-14, 01:41 AM

That was indeed a tragic week end for F1

Magic

HunterICX · 05-02-14, 04:37 AM

It was a terrible weekend indeed, you had Barrichello on Friday flying into the wall of tires, Ratzenberger's fatal accident on Saturday's Qualification and Senna's fatal accident on Sunday.

Formula 1 owes these two a lot for the security measures taken to increase the survivability of the drivers in a terrible accident and for the last 20 years it paid off and hope it remains that way for years to come.

Platapus · 05-02-14, 06:39 AM

Yikes, 20 years already. Cripes.

Skybird · 05-02-14, 06:54 AM

Senna's and Ratzenberger's accidents and later Schumacher's lobbying and pressing are the reasons why Formula 1 today is one of the safest racing series out there. Seen that way, that black weekend at Imola was not in vein, and has probably saved the lives of many others.Two lives traded for the lives of many more others - fair deal. Saying so with good respect for the men.

Jimbuna · 05-02-14, 10:58 AM

"Fair deal"?

I take your point but I wonder if the two that are dead would agree

Skybird · 05-02-14, 11:15 AM

Sounds grim, I know. But is true. Two lives for that of many more instead. Formula 1 before had seen many and quite horrific accidents - frequently. From the 50s and 60s there is video footage that looks like war movies.

Jimbuna · 05-02-14, 11:35 AM

Yes but both men were so young and doubtless many other deceased were.

It's just a pity the safety improvements came about as a result of two recent (at the time) deaths.

Skybird · 05-02-14, 12:22 PM

Isn't this the way so many things in the world move on - improvements done and reconsidering things not before fate has struck really badly?

All I wanted to say in principle is that their deaths had not been in vein, and that Schumacher also has his big merits in improving safety. They say no other driver lobbied that determined for better safety in F1 (because Senna was his idol), he also managed to unite drivers on that task, beyond the existing team rivalry. Not all team managements welcomed his initiatives.

TarJak · 05-02-14, 03:57 PM

Cough... Jackie Stewart...

Stewart is personally responsible for the driver campaign to improve circuits and equipment safety through the 60's and 70's and is still active in making improvements across motor sport.

I'm not diminishing Schumachers work but Stewart has certainly done more for drivers safety over a much longer period.

Herr-Berbunch · 05-02-14, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Senna's and Ratzenberger's accidents and later Schumacher's lobbying and pressing are the reasons why Formula 1 today is one of the safest racing series out there. Seen that way, that black weekend at Imola was not in vein, and has probably saved the lives of many others.Two lives traded for the lives of many more others - fair deal. Saying so with good respect for the men.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

Cough... Jackie Stewart...

Stewart is personally responsible for the driver campaign to improve circuits and equipment safety through the 60's and 70's and is still active in making improvements across motor sport.

I'm not diminishing Schumachers work but Stewart has certainly done more for drivers safety over a much longer period.

I'll just leave Prof. Sid Watkins name here.

TarJak · 05-02-14, 04:17 PM

Oh yes but we're talking drivers not neurosurgeons.

05-01-14, 06:09 AM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Senna 20 years on http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27204026 One of the best F1 drivers out there, a legend who will never be forgotten.

05-01-14, 06:16 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Spent many a Sunday at home and whilst living in Holland admiring his prowess behind the wheel __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	That was indeed a tragic week end for F1 Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

05-02-14, 04:37 AM	#6
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	It was a terrible weekend indeed, you had Barrichello on Friday flying into the wall of tires, Ratzenberger's fatal accident on Saturday's Qualification and Senna's fatal accident on Sunday. Formula 1 owes these two a lot for the security measures taken to increase the survivability of the drivers in a terrible accident and for the last 20 years it paid off and hope it remains that way for years to come. __________________

05-02-14, 06:39 AM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Yikes, 20 years already. Cripes. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Lionclaw Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,006 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Don't forget Roland Ratzenberger, he died the day before!

05-02-14, 06:54 AM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Senna's and Ratzenberger's accidents and later Schumacher's lobbying and pressing are the reasons why Formula 1 today is one of the safest racing series out there. Seen that way, that black weekend at Imola was not in vein, and has probably saved the lives of many others.Two lives traded for the lives of many more others - fair deal. Saying so with good respect for the men. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-02-14, 10:58 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	"Fair deal"? I take your point but I wonder if the two that are dead would agree __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-02-14, 11:15 AM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Sounds grim, I know. But is true. Two lives for that of many more instead. Formula 1 before had seen many and quite horrific accidents - frequently. From the 50s and 60s there is video footage that looks like war movies. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-02-14, 11:35 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Yes but both men were so young and doubtless many other deceased were. It's just a pity the safety improvements came about as a result of two recent (at the time) deaths. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-02-14, 12:22 PM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Isn't this the way so many things in the world move on - improvements done and reconsidering things not before fate has struck really badly? All I wanted to say in principle is that their deaths had not been in vein, and that Schumacher also has his big merits in improving safety. They say no other driver lobbied that determined for better safety in F1 (because Senna was his idol), he also managed to unite drivers on that task, beyond the existing team rivalry. Not all team managements welcomed his initiatives. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-02-14, 03:57 PM	#13
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Cough... Jackie Stewart... Stewart is personally responsible for the driver campaign to improve circuits and equipment safety through the 60's and 70's and is still active in making improvements across motor sport. I'm not diminishing Schumachers work but Stewart has certainly done more for drivers safety over a much longer period.

05-02-14, 04:17 PM	#15
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Oh yes but we're talking drivers not neurosurgeons.