World of Tanks observations

[Stealhead]

Well I recently started messeing around with WOT. While a fairly fun game I make several observations.

Things that annoy me:
1) Why in the hell do so many idiots sit there and fire thier guns at nothing? Do that not realize that first this gives away your position and second that uh ammo costs silver or gold and by doing this they are wasting money.

2) Why in the hell are you driving a light tank if you're not going to scout for enemies? Why when I am in a light tank are you simply following me in your
light tank you idiot? This is not combat effective you've just reduced our teams scouting abilities you twit.

3) Why are you not capturing the enemy base (espically in cases where enemy has superior numbers) no brainer you can win the battle and be out numbered 4 to one.

4) Why are you trying to use a SPG like a tank or a tank destroyer its neither you are the only type unit that should generally be stationary. Why don't you answer fire support requests?

5) Why are you using a tank destroyer if your accuracy sucks?

6) Why are you trying to duke it out with a superior tank? Move your pansy butt that's you advantage idiot.

7) Why are you trying to drive up and down sheer cliffs? You are achieving nothing. Except when you are on the opposing team then you should do this so I can kill you.

[Oberon]

Try War Thunder, IMHO it is preferable to WoT, more realism, less HP based and with the possibility of tanks and planes working together (with ships in the pipeline). US, German and Soviet sides are already in, Japanese and British to follow.

You are expecting authenticity/realism (and according behavior) from a game's community that consists mostly of teens who play Call of Duty on their peasant box...

You're wasting your time...

[CCIP]

Yeah, I think asking "why" in all this is pretty futile. These are not the sorts of players who think through their decisions.

The frustrating thing, though, is that it quickly becomes a game of exploiting very game-y mechanics and balance flaws that bear no resemblance to reality whatsoever.

[Stealhead]

I know that was just my rant not like any of it will be cured. Yes will have to try War Thunder. Too bad as WOT has or had potential but it got lost.

Always a disadvantage of MP games there always will be to some extent idiots.

After a year and a half I quitted WoT for a lot of reasons. The basics of the game are great, but there are so many wrongs... Player base is only one of them.

[Raptor1]

I'll have to agree about War Thunder. Not the epitome of realism but very much better than World of Tanks.

[Stealhead]

Well realism is not a concern nothing can really simulate the hell of WWII tank combat if it did no one would want to play. What my great uncle told me about opening the hatch on a seemingly undamaged M4 in Belgium was enough to convince me.

Anyway I want something fun but with less irritation than WOT.

As to War Thunder what's its system? As one thing I find kind of mehh about WOT is how you are more or less forced to pay at certain points unless you want to griiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii pause to catch breath iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid.

I also find that having to pay gold for certain ammo types is pretty bogus. I think everything except certain premium items should cost silver not gold just place a high silver price, of course they do this to get more money from the mommy daddy crowd.

I prefer a free to play that stands well on its own and has a strong in game currency so that maybe once a month you want to spend a little real cash on it.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Well realism is not a concern nothing can really simulate the hell of WWII tank combat if it did no one would want to play. What my great uncle told me about opening the hatch on a seemingly undamaged M4 in Belgium was enough to convince me.

Anyway I want something fun but with less irritation than WOT.

As to War Thunder what's its system? As one thing I find kind of mehh about WOT is how you are more or less forced to pay at certain points unless you want to griiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii pause to catch breath iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid.

I also find that having to pay gold for certain ammo types is pretty bogus. I think everything except certain premium items should cost silver not gold just place a high silver price, of course they do this to get more money from the mommy daddy crowd.

I prefer a free to play that stands well on its own and has a strong in game currency so that maybe once a month you want to spend a little real cash on it.

AFAIK there's no premium ammo in WT, although there is still grinding, alas, but I think it's a bit more accessible than WoT. Also, the damage model is much better, you even get to see what your shells have penetrated and where, and when you are shot out, the same in reverse:

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Well realism is not a concern nothing can really simulate the hell of WWII tank combat if it did no one would want to play. What my great uncle told me about opening the hatch on a seemingly undamaged M4 in Belgium was enough to convince me.

Anyway I want something fun but with less irritation than WOT.

As to War Thunder what's its system? As one thing I find kind of mehh about WOT is how you are more or less forced to pay at certain points unless you want to griiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii pause to catch breath iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid.

I also find that having to pay gold for certain ammo types is pretty bogus. I think everything except certain premium items should cost silver not gold just place a high silver price, of course they do this to get more money from the mommy daddy crowd.

I prefer a free to play that stands well on its own and has a strong in game currency so that maybe once a month you want to spend a little real cash on it.

Well, it's more realistic than World of Tanks. In any case I also find it a lot more fun. I almost couldn't stand World of Tanks at all.

As for grinding, the system is rather similar to World of Tanks. World of Tanks is worse in my experience but I haven't played it in ages and I haven't grinded to the end of the tree in War Thunder, so I can't say for sure. In any case, there's no premium ammo to my knowledge and while there are premium planes and tanks and such I don't think they're so massively unbalanced that the normal stuff isn't competitive.

[Stealhead]

Sounds more my speed I love seeing where my shots hit in APOPS(Operation Star) and in the TOW titles. Grinding is not so bad depending on the process of it which in WOT is a bit excessive seems set up to force you either to tire of it and quit or buy a premium tank just so you can exchange the xp and of course the extra silver that you net.

[RudiZornig]

Haven't played WoT in a year or so but I have to admit I love WoT Blitz, the mobile version. Perfect for the toilet break and when the wife picks a boring movie on movie night.

[Captain Vlad]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

1) Why in the hell do so many idiots sit there and fire thier guns at nothing? Do that not realize that first this gives away your position and second that uh ammo costs silver or gold and by doing this they are wasting money.

Except for very, very new players who don't know how to reload their cannon, I have no real idea why people do this. I mean, if you have good reason to think there's a baddie there you can't see that's one thing, but if not I don't get it.

2) Why in the hell are you driving a light tank if you're not going to scout for enemies? Why when I am in a light tank are you simply following me in your light tank you idiot? This is not combat effective you've just reduced our teams scouting abilities you twit.

I'm going to assume you're talking about light tanks in the 'actual scout tanks' sense. There are some people who don't seem to realize that not every light is meant for or suited to recon, but I doubt you're one of them.

That said, there are some occasions when a light tank can make crucial contributions without simply scouting (if there's three SPGs on the other team, I really hope the guy in the Luchs forgoes scouting and goes arty hunting) or maps where it's more effective to passive scout (ie: sit still in cover).

I've lost count of the number of times I've lost concealment because some idiot drove up next to my M3 and started firing at something in the distance.

Also, occasionally you get a match tiered in such a way where something like a Luchs or a Chaffee is potentially the biggest direct threat on the map. Don't expect them to scout when they're your teams most efficient killer.

3) Why are you not capturing the enemy base (espically in cases where enemy has superior numbers) no brainer you can win the battle and be out numbered 4 to one.

Usually I hate this too. But sometimes people are shouting about 'cap their base!' when they don't seem to realize that capping the base involves sitting there vulnerable to incoming fire and that the area around the base needs to be clean of SPGs, sniping TDs, etc, before capping will work.

4) Why are you trying to use a SPG like a tank or a tank destroyer its neither you are the only type unit that should generally be stationary. Why don't you answer fire support requests?

I don't SPG much, but the times I have, some people desperately make fire support requests against targets my particular gun cannot hit.

And sometimes you move because you think you've been spotted and sitting there is a great way to lose an artillery duel. On the other hand, using one as a clumsy TD is usually a bad idea, except with a couple of vehicles.

On the other hand, I got a Top Gun in a T-57 once and the last two guys I got outside of arty view. One I rammed.

5) Why are you using a tank destroyer if your accuracy sucks?

Depends on the TD. If we're talking about an AT2 it's because they like to drive a ridiculously slow armored monolith around hearing small caliber rounds bounce off their hull.

6) Why are you trying to duke it out with a superior tank? Move your pansy butt that's you advantage idiot.

Target fixation.

7) Why are you trying to drive up and down sheer cliffs?

Cuz cocaine is a hell of a drug.

[Stealhead]

Well I recon that proves the point that everyone else was making.

[nikimcbee]

@Steelhead, what server are you playing on? I'm on the west server. I was thinking about doing a thread similar to yours.

For the most part, I really enjoy the game, but it does have it's short comings.

1. I detest the SPGs for various reasons. (I live to kill these things though)

2. Some of the tank/gun combinations are just silly.
3. I hate some of the match mismatches, especially with the upper tier tanks.
4. I wish the matches were historically based. All German vs all Russian or US, etc.
5. Some of the things they charge gold for is frustrating (like camo paint jobs)