"Affluenza" as a DUI defense...

[vienna]

They should have charged him with murder and dealt with him "Texas Style" :


http://www.ajc.com/news/news/nationa...-deaths/ncJXL/


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...texas/3999487/


http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/12/...ving-accident/



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[Buddahaid]

I smell a payoff. This is disgusting to say the least.

[Jimbuna]

Sadly, money still speaks louder than everything else in some instances.

[GoldenRivet]

shameful.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Sadly, money still speaks louder than everything else in some instances.

Especially in court!

[Bubblehead1980]

Terrible incident but a creative defense and it worked.Also, what good would have been accomplished by sending a teenager to prison? This guy had no intent to kill, he made a mistake and will pay for it, but sending him to prison will do nothing but satisfy the natural urge for revenge, which is one reason the recidivism rate is so high in this country, we focus too much on punishment and revenge, instead of rehabilitation .Sure, it sounds bleeding heart but it makes sense because what are doing and have been, revenge/punishment, has not worked.

Bravo to the attorney for doing his job well

[August]

I guess if money caused this problem maybe taking all of it away from him and his parents via civil suit is the best thing to do.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Terrible incident but a creative defense and it worked.Also, what good would have been accomplished by sending a teenager to prison? This guy had no intent to kill, he made a mistake and will pay for it, but sending him to prison will do nothing but satisfy the natural urge for revenge, which is one reason the recidivism rate is so high in this country, we focus too much on punishment and revenge, instead of rehabilitation .Sure, it sounds bleeding heart but it makes sense because what are doing and have been, revenge/punishment, has not worked.

Bravo to the attorney for doing his job well

Four dead and a slap on the wrist. Just what is being paid for?

[Father Goose]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Terrible incident but a creative defense and it worked.Also, what good would have been accomplished by sending a teenager to prison? This guy had no intent to kill, he made a mistake and will pay for it, but sending him to prison will do nothing but satisfy the natural urge for revenge, which is one reason the recidivism rate is so high in this country, we focus too much on punishment and revenge, instead of rehabilitation .Sure, it sounds bleeding heart but it makes sense because what are doing and have been, revenge/punishment, has not worked.

Bravo to the attorney for doing his job well

Who are you? And what did you do with Bubblehead?!!!

This can't be the same person that wanted to hang the illegal Honduran by his thumbs!

[TorpX]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Terrible incident but a creative defense and it worked.Also, what good would have been accomplished by sending a teenager to prison? This guy had no intent to kill, he made a mistake and will pay for it, but sending him to prison will do nothing but satisfy the natural urge for revenge, which is one reason the recidivism rate is so high in this country, we focus too much on punishment and revenge, instead of rehabilitation .Sure, it sounds bleeding heart but it makes sense because what are doing and have been, revenge/punishment, has not worked.

Bravo to the attorney for doing his job well

Gawd!

Drunk drivers never intend to hurt anyone, so should we not punish any of them?

If "revenge" or "punishment" is such a failure, do you think we should close the prisons and let the inmates go?

I think there should be consequences for crimes, and it this case some prison time is called for.

I'm not surprised that some defense attorneys would try to peddle that nonsense, but I find it truly alarming that a judge would fall for such garbage.

[Tchocky]

Bravo

[TarJak]

I hope that the deaths he caused haunt him for the rest of his life.

The damage he has caused cannot be repaired but the sentence seems to have been very lenient no matter how tough his probation officers are.

[vienna]

In case you are wondering where that waste of life named Etahn Crouch is likely to end up to serve his "gruelling punishment", here is a link to the rehab center's website:


http://www.newportacademy.com/facili...ential-campus/


Altogether now: "Nobody knows da trubble I's seen..."



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[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Well, your senses are off then.There is a huge difference between a US citizen, a teenager at that, making a stupid decision vast majority of us have made at one point or another, to drive after consuming alcohol.Unfortunately, his stupid decision resulted in the tragedy of four people losing their lives.Now, the kid was 16 at time of incident and this specific case leads into the big picture issue of our flawed and failed justice/corrections(prison) system.Our system is focused on punishment and satisfying the human need for revenge in lieu of punishment and rehabilitation.Sure, some violent offenders are beyond help but the US has 2 million plus people in prison and an extremely high recidivism rate.People usually learn how to be "better" criminals in prison and once out, due to the stigma, are excluded from society in many ways and end up right back in prison.I am certainly no bleeding heart but I am for what works here, and how things are now, do not work.I believe that was part of the judge's thinking, prison is no place for a 16 year old kid who simply made an idiotic mistake that lead to tragedy.Dislike him all you want because is wealthy(seems a lot of hate, kid can't help if he is wealthy anymore than a kid who is poor can) but he is still a kid who made a stupid mistake, he deserves punishment sure but being removed from society and put in prison for many years? Ten years of felony probation is not a slap on the wrist, eps if he ends up with a hard nosed Probation Officer.Imagine trying to finish high school with all these special restrictions? Imagine trying to go to college? Imagine having to ask permission to leave the county, the state, the country? This kid is under the thumb of the government for ten years and I find it highly likely if he does not obey the terms, he will end up in prison.

Interesting how your tune changes depending on the situation. I'd say Jim's senses are spot on:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Someone causes a wreck and is actually drunk, okay they deserve punishment,

How about if they kill someone? Particularly whilst both drunk and on drugs?

Originally Posted by vienna

In case you are wondering where that waste of life named Etahn Crouch is likely to end up to serve his "gruelling punishment", here is a link to the rehab center's website:


http://www.newportacademy.com/facili...ential-campus/



Altogether now: "Nobody knows da trubble I's seen..."



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Shawshank redemption it aint.

[vienna]

Shawshank redemption it aint.

Also consider these are not like jails; they are not strict lockdown facilities and can be left easily. This place is similar to the "rehab" resort facilities in Malibu and other near by resort beach areas nearby where people like Lindsay Lohan, Chris Brown go and we've all seen how well they've done with their "problems"...


I expect to hear he's gotten out and done some more damage here in California. If he does, he's SOL because the voters of California eliminated 'diminished capacity' as a defense after ther Dan White "twinkie defense" debacle...



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