New mod list causes crashes

Warkry777 · 12-23-13, 03:54 PM

Good evening everyone.

I have been installing a new set of mod, mainly from the list from Fifi. To it i added a few mods from Sober's list, and on the whole here is what i came with :

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Accurate German Flags
sobers game loading tips V8 SH5
sobers multi color mod V5
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
silentmichal's interior mod 1.2.4
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - 4.a Camera Filters - Realistic Colors
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters
DynEnv v2.9 - Wave Mechanics - Gale (Improved)
DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds
Water reflections intensity varied by available sunlight by TheDarkWraith
Moon_light_mod
Small_trees_SH5_V1
sobers more trees SH5
sobers smoke screen V1 SH5 (DynEnv compatible)
sobers water splash anim SH5
sobers best ever fog V22 SH5
sobers base sky mechanics V1
sobers better terrain v3 SH5
sobers storm Clouds v1 SH5
sobers see thru wake fix
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
SH5 Longer Repairs v.1
AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt faces
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
Naights Submaine Textures v1.2G (PUV)
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 Basemod
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 HOTFIX 3
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_New_radio_messages_German
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_No_Snorkel_Exhaust_Smoke
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_WWIIInterface_by_naights
Fifi mods for NewUIs V1
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_27.05.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013
Conus' Das Boot Crew Faces
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith_Patch_1
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith
Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches).7z
Shadow Improvement ModLR
Depth Charge Fix
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1
sobers DOF V6 SH5
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981
MCCD_1.04
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 1. Base Mod
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 2.a Alternate Tool Graphics - Wooden Handle
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 3. Shadowed Cursors
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 4.b Alternate Dialog Cursors - Shadowed
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 5.i EQuaTool 1.1 Patch - Large Set
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
Trevally TDC Help v2
sobers Realistic contrast V6 SH5
sobers realistic underwater FX7 SH5
Change days in bunker
sobers bad weather deck gun V5 SH5

I started a new campaign and everything ran smoothly. I did the first two missions without any problem.
However, i decided to take out Real Navigation to be able to assign Waypoints to my sub instead of all the neat stuffs included by the mod. And since then, i keep getting CTD. Mostly when i hit the Periscope depth icon or when meeting an enemy ship. I tried restarting a campaign, but it still crashes, even when i come back to the original list.

Can somebody bring me some lights on it?

THEBERBSTER · 12-23-13, 07:33 PM

I am no expert but you have a mod showing .7z at the end which I think is still in it's zipped state so the mod has not been unpacked!
Did you make the changes back in TDW Generic File Patcher and also in the Options File Editor when you Disabled Real Navigation?
You have a large mod soup. The more mods you have the more likely somewhere down the line you will have ctd,s. You have a lot of environmental mods. If you were to remove some of these you would probably not notice the difference.
I am sure the guys will look at your mod soup and give you some advice as to any that need repositioning.
I do not know why but the bad weather deck gun was giving me a ctd
Best of luck Peter

Warkry777 · 12-24-13, 03:22 AM

Thanks for that first answer.

I checked and the 7.z is just the name of the file, it's not a compressed file. Weird name i admit.

You also talk about desactivating the REal navigation via the option file editor; i didn't do that. Do you have a link to the desactivation process?

I am waiting for the opinion of experts

Thanks!

Sailor Steve · 12-24-13, 09:43 AM

I'm not an expert either, especially on things pertaining to SH5, but unless someone looks at your list and spots something all I can suggest is remove the latest mod and try it. If that doesn't work remove the next one and try it.

I know that most people just want to load up a tankful of mods and play, but unless you know all the mods intimately yourself the best way to do it is load them up one at a time when you first start and test each and every one. I know it's tedious and boring, but so is sitting and looking at a crashed screen. That way you not only have a game that works, you also have a working knowledge of what each mod does.

I don't know how many times I've done that with SH3, but it's more than I can count, and I now have a list of what needs to be installed in what order, and if I want to add a new one I only have to figure out what order it should go in. If I do get a crash I'm usually pretty certain what caused it and why. That's good knowledge to have.

THEBERBSTER · 12-24-13, 12:21 PM

If you are asking for a link for the Options File Editor then I can only guess that you never changed it from false to true in the first place as it would just be a reversed procedure.
I totally agree with Sailor Steve. It's a pain but sometimes it is the only way. I started with 74 mods and although everything started ok I started to get ctd's to a point where even the saved game would not load. I decided there and then that I had had enough, so I decided I would only enable the mods I really could not do without and still ended up with over 50 mods and no ctd's to date. I took the trouble to look at mod lists from 6 other subbers rather than just the one to make sure I was on the right track.
As I said before I think you could lose a few environmental mods and not notice the difference. If you look at the readme for the Dynamic Environment v2.9 this is a really good mod with a lot of content. I just wonder how many mods you have that are over writing other mods!

12-23-13, 07:33 PM	#2
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	I am no expert but you have a mod showing .7z at the end which I think is still in it's zipped state so the mod has not been unpacked! Did you make the changes back in TDW Generic File Patcher and also in the Options File Editor when you Disabled Real Navigation? You have a large mod soup. The more mods you have the more likely somewhere down the line you will have ctd,s. You have a lot of environmental mods. If you were to remove some of these you would probably not notice the difference. I am sure the guys will look at your mod soup and give you some advice as to any that need repositioning. I do not know why but the bad weather deck gun was giving me a ctd Best of luck Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

12-24-13, 09:43 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm not an expert either, especially on things pertaining to SH5, but unless someone looks at your list and spots something all I can suggest is remove the latest mod and try it. If that doesn't work remove the next one and try it. I know that most people just want to load up a tankful of mods and play, but unless you know all the mods intimately yourself the best way to do it is load them up one at a time when you first start and test each and every one. I know it's tedious and boring, but so is sitting and looking at a crashed screen. That way you not only have a game that works, you also have a working knowledge of what each mod does. I don't know how many times I've done that with SH3, but it's more than I can count, and I now have a list of what needs to be installed in what order, and if I want to add a new one I only have to figure out what order it should go in. If I do get a crash I'm usually pretty certain what caused it and why. That's good knowledge to have. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-24-13, 12:21 PM	#5
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	If you are asking for a link for the Options File Editor then I can only guess that you never changed it from false to true in the first place as it would just be a reversed procedure. I totally agree with Sailor Steve. It's a pain but sometimes it is the only way. I started with 74 mods and although everything started ok I started to get ctd's to a point where even the saved game would not load. I decided there and then that I had had enough, so I decided I would only enable the mods I really could not do without and still ended up with over 50 mods and no ctd's to date. I took the trouble to look at mod lists from 6 other subbers rather than just the one to make sure I was on the right track. As I said before I think you could lose a few environmental mods and not notice the difference. If you look at the readme for the Dynamic Environment v2.9 this is a really good mod with a lot of content. I just wonder how many mods you have that are over writing other mods! __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

12-24-13, 03:22 AM	#3
Warkry777 Watch Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 17 Downloads: 407 Uploads: 0	Thanks for that first answer. I checked and the 7.z is just the name of the file, it's not a compressed file. Weird name i admit. You also talk about desactivating the REal navigation via the option file editor; i didn't do that. Do you have a link to the desactivation process? I am waiting for the opinion of experts Thanks!