Hi from a Newbie, some questions

demon_of_razgriz · 12-02-13, 08:56 AM

First: I´d like to say hi to all of you, it´s my first post. I´ve been reading the forums for a few weeks now and then and thought about getting SH4. During this Steam Sale the whole package came on offer for 15 bucks (SH3, SH4Gold, SH5) so I couldn´t keep my hands off it

I´m pretty new to SH (played SH2 maaany years ago, but just messing around, nothing serious) and the school in SH4 doesn´t help a lot...but okay, that´s what I expect from a sim. In general I like sims, no matter if racing laserscaned tracks or burning a capsule after a messed up reentry

So coming to a few of my questions:
There are quite some tutorials in the net...are there any you really recomend to watch (for an absolute beginner)? I started the campaign and I´m already struggling to see a convoy before they see me...yes, I´m that bad

Another thing: I thought okay, let´s play the basic campaign first and go to TMO later. Which mods are worth noting for the basic game without changing the gamplay? (like e.g. Graphics)

I guess something to install in that regard would be an Environmental mod. I installed the ISE mod and it already improves the visual side a lot. But actually all those environmental mods are confusing me...ISE, RE, Env 5.0...which one is newer, better? Which one should I get for playing the basic game?

My last question: Did I understand correct, TMO already includes an environmental mod, right?

Okay, lot´s of questions, thanks in advance!

fireftr18 · 12-02-13, 09:45 AM

Welcome aboard demon!

Don't discount the in-game tutorials, or practice missions. The first one is great just to learn and practice what the game subs can do, and what you can do with them. The targeting one is great for learning basic targeting. Use these two generously. After reading/viewing the different tutorials, start a campaign. They seem to be the best overall for learning the game.

As far as mods go, some say install the mods right away, some say wait until you've had some experience. That's up to you. The super mods like TMO and RFB make major changes to the game sub characteristics and enemy AI. I run TMO with RSRDC and other minor mods. And yes, TMO has an environmental mod.

Now stop fooling around. We need you to check the forward hatch for air leaks.

les green01 · 12-02-13, 10:37 AM

welcome aboard i would try env 5.0,just keep plugging away and your be a vetern shorty

Aktungbby · 12-02-13, 11:54 AM

AHH! another demonic

er! (check my avatar

)Welcome Demon of Razgriz

Don't worry, some of us still play SHII and Destroyer Command but I like SHV with all the brilliant modding the best. Go with Fifi's mod list on that one to start off. Good luck and good hunting and ask away at

that's why it exists!

Jimbuna · 12-02-13, 01:04 PM

Welcome to SubSim demon

magic452 · 12-03-13, 01:41 AM

Welcome to the boat mate.

Env 5.0 is a good mod but when you load any super mod it's gatta go.
TMO has a very good environmental mod in it.
I wouldn't start with a career but use the war patrols for school missions.
Just save at first contact and keep replaying the saves to get some plotting, tracking, set up and shooting practice. Try after mid '43 and you'll have radar, makes learning much easier.

Magic

Yamato_NF · 12-03-13, 05:39 AM

I Take it your name is an Ace Combat 5 refrence?

ok, so... search youtube if you can, google is your friend!
Ive previously learned how to do submerged attacks on ships using sonar, and only sonar. its called the Dick O'Kane method, there is a tutorial on it by Rockin_Robbins. loadsa great tutorials out there if you want to learn!

Now as to what mods to use?
play the stock game and find what you dont like, then pick a list.

as said, welcome aboard

-Yamato_NF

12-02-13, 08:56 AM	#1
demon_of_razgriz Bilge Rat Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hi from a Newbie, some questions First: I´d like to say hi to all of you, it´s my first post. I´ve been reading the forums for a few weeks now and then and thought about getting SH4. During this Steam Sale the whole package came on offer for 15 bucks (SH3, SH4Gold, SH5) so I couldn´t keep my hands off it I´m pretty new to SH (played SH2 maaany years ago, but just messing around, nothing serious) and the school in SH4 doesn´t help a lot...but okay, that´s what I expect from a sim. In general I like sims, no matter if racing laserscaned tracks or burning a capsule after a messed up reentry So coming to a few of my questions: There are quite some tutorials in the net...are there any you really recomend to watch (for an absolute beginner)? I started the campaign and I´m already struggling to see a convoy before they see me...yes, I´m that bad Another thing: I thought okay, let´s play the basic campaign first and go to TMO later. Which mods are worth noting for the basic game without changing the gamplay? (like e.g. Graphics) I guess something to install in that regard would be an Environmental mod. I installed the ISE mod and it already improves the visual side a lot. But actually all those environmental mods are confusing me...ISE, RE, Env 5.0...which one is newer, better? Which one should I get for playing the basic game? My last question: Did I understand correct, TMO already includes an environmental mod, right? Okay, lot´s of questions, thanks in advance!

12-02-13, 09:45 AM	#2
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard demon! Don't discount the in-game tutorials, or practice missions. The first one is great just to learn and practice what the game subs can do, and what you can do with them. The targeting one is great for learning basic targeting. Use these two generously. After reading/viewing the different tutorials, start a campaign. They seem to be the best overall for learning the game. As far as mods go, some say install the mods right away, some say wait until you've had some experience. That's up to you. The super mods like TMO and RFB make major changes to the game sub characteristics and enemy AI. I run TMO with RSRDC and other minor mods. And yes, TMO has an environmental mod. Now stop fooling around. We need you to check the forward hatch for air leaks. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

12-02-13, 10:37 AM	#3
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard i would try env 5.0,just keep plugging away and your be a vetern shorty __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

12-02-13, 11:54 AM	#4
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,995 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	AHH! another demonic er! (check my avatar)Welcome Demon of RazgrizDon't worry, some of us still play SHII and Destroyer Command but I like SHV with all the brilliant modding the best. Go with Fifi's mod list on that one to start off. Good luck and good hunting and ask away at that's why it exists! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

12-02-13, 01:04 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome to SubSim demon __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-03-13, 01:41 AM	#6
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Welcome to the boat mate. Env 5.0 is a good mod but when you load any super mod it's gatta go. TMO has a very good environmental mod in it. I wouldn't start with a career but use the war patrols for school missions. Just save at first contact and keep replaying the saves to get some plotting, tracking, set up and shooting practice. Try after mid '43 and you'll have radar, makes learning much easier. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

12-03-13, 05:39 AM	#7
Yamato_NF King of the Ocean Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Michigan, United States Posts: 337 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 0	Welcome Aboard! I Take it your name is an Ace Combat 5 refrence? ok, so... search youtube if you can, google is your friend! Ive previously learned how to do submerged attacks on ships using sonar, and only sonar. its called the Dick O'Kane method, there is a tutorial on it by Rockin_Robbins. loadsa great tutorials out there if you want to learn! Now as to what mods to use? play the stock game and find what you dont like, then pick a list. as said, welcome aboard -Yamato_NF __________________ Proud owner of SH3/4/5 Proud owner of the DCS series "He who controls the seas controls the world."