Abhorring and Disgusting display of police brutality

[CaptainMattJ.]

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S...0#.UnlwHxDAHHy

This amounts to nothing less than rape, battery, and outrageously unethical and disgusting medical malpractice. I hope they get thrown in jail for a long time. Absolutely disgusting.

[Moonlight]

Good grief when did your police force start wearing jackboots? I remember a time when the TV police dramas like Hill Street Blues portrayed them as the good guys, how times have changed.

Sure makes a Yubba or Bubble thread worth a second thought.


I doubt I'd make it to the 'I'm sueing you' level.
I'd only make it to the latest 'Suspect kills' level.

[Bubblehead1980]

Yep, not shocked but am disgusted, sad part is, incidents of brutality and misbehavior are not uncommon.I would love to be the victim's attorney.The Officers involved should be fired, arrested and serve jail time.The doctor's should lose their licenses permanently and be registered sex offenders.The victim should get a public apology and a million dollar settlement.A real example should be made of all those involved, this is just outrageous.

This is a result of the ridiculous, paramilitary culture of police in the united states.A system that needs a major reform that is never reformed is the criminal justice system.I briefly considered a career in law enforcement, spent many hours on ride alongs in various places, mainly my hometown(which has plenty of crime, shootings etc) seen exactly what police face BUT I have also seen how even good people who are in LE, fall into the culture.They see it as good guys vs bad and the ends justify the means.Respect for constitutional rights is no always the first thing on their mind.This is the prevalent culture across police departments, sheriffs offices in this country.State Police and Highway patrol USUALLY seem to be a little less gung ho in some regards but then they treat relatively minor things like the crime of the century.Federal LE, they are in a league of their own in their abuses and must be curtailed.

[Herr-Berbunch]

All for not stopping at a stop sign.

I agree with the above comments!

[Sailor Steve]

I'm amazed at the temerity of the Medical Center's people, billing the guy for the procedures the police forced him to have with a warrant issued in another county. I can't wait to see how the lawsuit goes.

[Wolferz]

I do not consent to searches of my person or my property by officers, doctors or dogs. Whoever issued the warrant in this travesty of justice needs to be arrested and prosecuted on a violation of civil rights charge right next to the rest of the actors.
Grabbing your bum is not probable cause for what these yahoos subjected the man to.
At least they didn't perform the cavity search on the side of the road like those two pervert cops in Texas did to the two women awhile back. Using the same pair of gloves.

What really struck me as odd in the story was all the Hispanic surnames and how they all acted like those corrupt police in Mexico. They apparently felt that this alleged perp was guilty of drug smuggling even though they could find no evidence after the first three tries. If this is how they protect and serve the public, then they can just stop protecting me.

Maybe all those cops were drug dealers or users themselves and they were desperate to replenish their stock.

[Stealhead]

Wow that is pretty crazy hard to believe that the center people went along with it.Anyway I hope the guy reuses to take a settlement I can see him easily winning civil suit and getting several million dollars.

@Wolf it was in New Mexico you have lots people out west that are of Mexican heritage.I doubt it has much of anything to do with their ethnic background(I have met many guys from Texas,Arizona,New Mexico that had Spanish sir names to which that was the only "hispanic" thing about them juts like a 4th or 5th generation guy with a German or Italian name.

I recall an experiment performed at a university in the 1970's where a group of men from various back grounds both ethnic and economic where split into two groups one where the "inmates" of a simulated prison the other half where the "guards".The goal of the experiment was to see how people would behave if they where given unchecked powers.So the guards where allowed to do what ever they wanted with no restrictions even if they broke the set rules they where not stopped.Well after a few days it got out of hand and they stopped the experiment.Of course this was to test how both guards and prisoners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

[AVGWarhawk]

I would hate to see what happens if the fella really did do something wrong. Sheesh...insane.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I recall an experiment performed at a university in the 1970's where a group of men from various back grounds both ethnic and economic where split into two groups one where the "inmates" of a simulated prison the other half where the "guards".The goal of the experiment was to see how people would behave if they where given unchecked powers.So the guards where allowed to do what ever they wanted with no restrictions even if they broke the set rules they where not stopped.Well after a few days it got out of hand and they stopped the experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

The BBC did a similar experiment a few years back, called 'The Experiment':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Experiment

It might be around on youtube somewhere, makes for interesting watching.

[Jimbuna]

Tis a funnel...not a tunnel

I hope the guys litigation is successful.

[Stealhead]

Even though this kind of thing does happen I really do not feel that law enforcement is out of control in the US.You can d and say things to cops here and 99% of the time have no fear.

For example one can choose to be fairly hostile in attitude and even disrespectful and nothing will happen to them.In many nations this is not the case at all.

I recall back in high school we had this exchange student from Brazil and a group us went to a movie one Friday night and he came along.We the theater was attached to a mall and there was a police officer there kind of a chubby fellow as well. Anyway a few people where openly making fun of him calling him "fat piggy" stuff like and unless he was deaf he could hear what they said.anyway the cop did not do anything.The kid from Brazil was shocked at how the cop reacted in Brazil you would never dare insult a cop in anyway.

Yeah there are abuses here and there but by and large in the US the police give people plenty of leeway.I think when you have incidents with cops that push it too far the higher ups can be blamed that particular precinct or perhaps entire department most likely has poor over sight and poor leadership that allows people to go too far.

Maybe I am just lucky(sarcastic intent here) I have only had one non traffic ticket type encounter with the law in the civilian world.And my attitude during the encounter was certainty not a "I will do what ever you say sir" at the same time I was not "asking for trouble" either I respectfully stood my ground as to the situation which was an attempt by one of the cops to nab me for public intoxication/open container he got me for neither because I did not allow him the opportunity to and he knew that i was not drunk and the OC hit was bogus at a tailgate party where there are 25,000 other people doing the same thing.The way I see it is that you have no idea what kind a cop/s you are dealing with are they the reasonable ones or are they the hall monitor types? You have no idea so best to proceed with caution and not give them any reason to come at you.Speak softly and carry a big stick if they violate your rights let them know when you slap the law suit against them not before hand because the authority abuser will butt heads with.

Not saying that the guy in this incident did anything to deserve all of the probing so far as the story has been laid out.

[nikimcbee]

It's in NM. I thought they nailed Heisnburg.

What Happened
While there, Eckert was subjected to repeated and humiliating forced medical procedures. A review of Eckert's medical records, which he released to KOB, and details in the lawsuit show the following happened:


1. Eckert's abdominal area was x-rayed; no narcotics were found.
2. Doctors then performed an exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.
3. Doctors performed a second exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.
4. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.
5. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a second time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.
6. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a third time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.
7. Doctors then x-rayed Eckert again; no narcotics were found.
8. Doctors prepared Eckert for surgery, sedated him, and then performed a colonoscopy where a scope with a camera was inserted into Eckert's anus, rectum, colon, and large intestines. No narcotics were found.



Throughout this ordeal, Eckert protested and never gave doctors at the Gila Regional Medical Center consent to perform any of these medical procedures.

What the hell?
No words...

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Even though this kind of thing does happen I really do not feel that law enforcement is out of control in the US.You can d and say things to cops here and 99% of the time have no fear.

For example one can choose to be fairly hostile in attitude and even disrespectful and nothing will happen to them.In many nations this is not the case at all.

I recall back in high school we had this exchange student from Brazil and a group us went to a movie one Friday night and he came along.We the theater was attached to a mall and there was a police officer there kind of a chubby fellow as well. Anyway a few people where openly making fun of him calling him "fat piggy" stuff like and unless he was deaf he could hear what they said.anyway the cop did not do anything.The kid from Brazil was shocked at how the cop reacted in Brazil you would never dare insult a cop in anyway.

Yeah there are abuses here and there but by and large in the US the police give people plenty of leeway.I think when you have incidents with cops that push it too far the higher ups can be blamed that particular precinct or perhaps entire department most likely has poor over sight and poor leadership that allows people to go too far.

Maybe I am just lucky(sarcastic intent here) I have only had one non traffic ticket type encounter with the law in the civilian world.And my attitude during the encounter was certainty not a "I will do what ever you say sir" at the same time I was not "asking for trouble" either I respectfully stood my ground as to the situation which was an attempt by one of the cops to nab me for public intoxication/open container he got me for neither because I did not allow him the opportunity to and he knew that i was not drunk and the OC hit was bogus at a tailgate party where there are 25,000 other people doing the same thing.The way I see it is that you have no idea what kind a cop/s you are dealing with are they the reasonable ones or are they the hall monitor types? You have no idea so best to proceed with caution and not give them any reason to come at you.Speak softly and carry a big stick if they violate your rights let them know when you slap the law suit against them not before hand because the authority abuser will butt heads with.

Not saying that the guy in this incident did anything to deserve all of the probing so far as the story has been laid out.

Well, we have the first amendment and unless behavior is coming to the point of violating statutes concerning disorderly conduct, not much they can do legally.Still not smart to just randomly heckle a cop, they can arrest you for whatever, probably beat the rap but can't beat the ride as they say.

Police culture is out of control though, I guess since I saw the inside, I became friends, good friends with several cops, actually managed to date the one good looking female cop I ever saw around there lol, which had it's perks. Anyways, most are good people doing a job, which can be tough but the prevailing culture is one of "us vs them" which explains why incidents of misconduct and brutality are not really rare.Common thing that occurs is cops lie to suspects during investigations etc.Most common one I noticed is on DUI cases, suspects will be hesitant to perform sobriety tests, especially the breathalyzer, which is just helping the government convict them if they do.However, saw many cops tell them "Well things will go easier if you cooperate" or "well you license will be suspended" and heard many people tell me that story and I just cringe since if convicted will lose your license anyways, why help them convict you? Always tell my friends, politely refuse all sobriety tests, unless they have a video of you falling down drunk, much easier to win the case at trial if they even go to trial and don't drop it or offer a softball plea.I have seen people who I could tell were drunk, beat it at trial, 2 am, they were sleepy etc, it works but with scientific proof like a breathalyzer, you are screwed.Also, the old routine where cops lie and get people to incriminate themselves, tell them someone turned on then, they have this evidence etc when they don't.Yes, that is why have right to remain silent but most people don't full get this, don't think a cop can lie to them.These kind of tactics are wrong and should not be allowed but it's a cop thing that is repeated throughout the country.

Local Police and Sheriff's though are no where near as out of countrol as Federal Law Enforcement, FBI and DHS are modern day Gestapo and SS, they absolutely need to be curtailed.