Diving Depth- how common do modern subs go really deep- and how useful is it?

tippership · 07-07-13, 10:46 PM

Been thinking about this since my Sub Command days(i only just transitioned to DW) -

In -game , the subs can go pretty deep...well, the 688I's are a bit lacking compared to the others, but that's one of the faults of lots of stuff, from rickover's philosphies, to HY-80 being used, costs.....etc,etc....

Anyway, the Akulas and Seawolves can dive pretty deep- so can subs like Alfas....

Not everywhere in the ocean can you get 2000 ft deep onwards..

but in a blue water mission, or just in areas where the ocean is that deep- how often would a modern skipper decide to travel that deep?

It surely IS harder to pick up a seawolf running at 2000+ ft deep
- and while it is probably a bit risky travelling near crush depth- i'd think there'd be advantages, like if you go at full or plus speeds, it's hardest to detect you- and even harder to shoot at you. Not all moderm torpedoes can go that deep , although many can...

And in a shooting gallery- why not operate at deep as possible?

Going deep stresses the hull , but there are still some very serious advantages to moving like that, right?

Seems to me, it'd be a good idea to design a advanced sub that uses titanium/HY 100 steel or greater (I know brittleness starts to become a factor ..)and can sit at 3000++, or ....let's shoot for the stars...5000 ft deep or so (Now he can say hello to DSRV's at 5000 ft in their face before blowing them up for the lulz

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- and engage subs or surface ships with near impunity if not actual impunity due to hostile torpedoes not being able to operate in this range.(Adcaps and 65 CM's have depth limits- and adcaps were built to be able to chase Alfas, but go past 3500 ft into DSRV territory and they're done)
or them being able to detect you, for that matter.

You'd need special torpedoes built to operate at these depths- but that'd come with the sub..

the volume of water would also start to hamper your own sensors detecting things- but if thermal layers occur deeper than 2000 ft anywhere in the ocean and don't level off permanently after a depth point at one degree , and stay that way all the way down to ...marianas 30,000 ft levels - It'd be one easy way to travel silent, no?
And someone actively pinging away with a mil sonar isn't finding you at those depths no matter what he does, almost.

Finally, how often do YOU take your sub in DW/SC deep?
Do you flirt with crush depth a lot?

Hm...shooting at a DSRV's.....at 5000ft deep...at his depth level...

07-07-13, 10:46 PM	#1
tippership Watch Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 22 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Diving Depth- how common do modern subs go really deep- and how useful is it? Been thinking about this since my Sub Command days(i only just transitioned to DW) - In -game , the subs can go pretty deep...well, the 688I's are a bit lacking compared to the others, but that's one of the faults of lots of stuff, from rickover's philosphies, to HY-80 being used, costs.....etc,etc.... Anyway, the Akulas and Seawolves can dive pretty deep- so can subs like Alfas.... Not everywhere in the ocean can you get 2000 ft deep onwards.. but in a blue water mission, or just in areas where the ocean is that deep- how often would a modern skipper decide to travel that deep? It surely IS harder to pick up a seawolf running at 2000+ ft deep - and while it is probably a bit risky travelling near crush depth- i'd think there'd be advantages, like if you go at full or plus speeds, it's hardest to detect you- and even harder to shoot at you. Not all moderm torpedoes can go that deep , although many can... And in a shooting gallery- why not operate at deep as possible? Going deep stresses the hull , but there are still some very serious advantages to moving like that, right? Seems to me, it'd be a good idea to design a advanced sub that uses titanium/HY 100 steel or greater (I know brittleness starts to become a factor ..)and can sit at 3000++, or ....let's shoot for the stars...5000 ft deep or so (Now he can say hello to DSRV's at 5000 ft in their face before blowing them up for the lulz ) - and engage subs or surface ships with near impunity if not actual impunity due to hostile torpedoes not being able to operate in this range.(Adcaps and 65 CM's have depth limits- and adcaps were built to be able to chase Alfas, but go past 3500 ft into DSRV territory and they're done) or them being able to detect you, for that matter. You'd need special torpedoes built to operate at these depths- but that'd come with the sub.. the volume of water would also start to hamper your own sensors detecting things- but if thermal layers occur deeper than 2000 ft anywhere in the ocean and don't level off permanently after a depth point at one degree , and stay that way all the way down to ...marianas 30,000 ft levels - It'd be one easy way to travel silent, no? And someone actively pinging away with a mil sonar isn't finding you at those depths no matter what he does, almost. Finally, how often do YOU take your sub in DW/SC deep? Do you flirt with crush depth a lot? Hm...shooting at a DSRV's.....at 5000ft deep...at his depth level...