Mid '41 So should I jump to a Type IX?

Radian · 09-10-13, 01:13 PM

So in my campaign, I'm about to start patrol 15. It's late July 1941. Should I stick with my VIIc or jump to a type IX knowing there will be nice targets across the Atlantic soon?

I've not used a type IX yet. I like the thought of the larger torpedo loadout. But I worry about the increased crash dive times.

It's still only 1941 and I'm already stressed over aircraft. I don't even bother trying to man the flak gun. Once I get the alarm I hit the "C" key immediately. Then about 10 seconds later I crank the rudder hard one way or the other....

So far no plane attacks have really been a threat. But if the Type IX takes much longer to dive. Then it might become a problem....

So what is the opinion of the experts?

Radian

RConch · 09-10-13, 01:52 PM

No experts here. You will be killed either way probably. The dive times counts for me with a Type VII. The glory in the Golden West will fade very quickly.

sublynx · 09-10-13, 02:20 PM

With a type IX you will get lots of patrol grids without the air menace and you will spend more time in quieter areas = better chance of staying alive longer.

In actual combat situation I hate the type IX. I feel like I'm in a whale that just can't be always being found out visually, by ASDIC, hydrophone and depth charges. However I'm pretty sure that's just me and some bad initial experiences. In the game reality the difference compared to type VII is probably small and you should just take the IX with the long mid-Atlantic patrols with lots of time outside the range of aircraft.

If you want play in a more historical way you would probably not have a choice. Your commanders would probably just order you a boat.

flag4 · 09-10-13, 04:02 PM

Consider: a Type IX or The Eastern Front?

U1260 · 09-10-13, 05:54 PM

If it's July 1941 take the Type IX down to Freetown.

Aktungbby · 09-10-13, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Radian

So in my campaign, I'm about to start patrol 15. It's late July 1941. Should I stick with my VIIc or jump to a type IX knowing there will be nice targets across the Atlantic soon?

I've not used a type IX yet. I like the thought of the larger torpedo loadout. But I worry about the increased crash dive times.

It's still only 1941 and I'm already stressed over aircraft. I don't even bother trying to man the flak gun. Once I get the alarm I hit the "C" key immediately. Then about 10 seconds later I crank the rudder hard one way or the other....

So far no plane attacks have really been a threat. But if the Type IX takes much longer to dive. Then it might become a problem....

So what is the opinion of the experts?

Radian

Also consider staying 'heavy' at all times: at 6 or 7 meters to facilitate your crash dives

Tupolev · 09-12-13, 03:35 PM

I'm with sublynx on this one...

Granted I've only taken out a IX on 4 or 5 patrols now, I always feel ungainly and awkward in it. Not sure if the turning radius is that much larger than the VII or not but it just feels like it. Then again that could just been the broad deck I see from the Turm...

That said, its range is great. I do enjoy taking long 100ish day patrols in them. I only have to traverse the Biscay twice instead of the several times for the shorter patrols.

I've done some checking on Uboat.net as well; seems the VIIs made a few ventures to the Caribbean too. With the help of the Milch Cows they made quite a few patrols far west....

T

Rammstein0991 · 09-18-13, 12:23 AM

Properly used the IX can be much more of a threat than the VII, I mean part of the reason it was designed was to be a convoy stalker, you see this in its longer range and larger torpedo stores.

In the end its all up to personal preference, so you might wanna play a bit of both if you're not sure.

09-10-13, 01:13 PM	#1
Radian Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 10 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Mid '41 So should I jump to a Type IX? So in my campaign, I'm about to start patrol 15. It's late July 1941. Should I stick with my VIIc or jump to a type IX knowing there will be nice targets across the Atlantic soon? I've not used a type IX yet. I like the thought of the larger torpedo loadout. But I worry about the increased crash dive times. It's still only 1941 and I'm already stressed over aircraft. I don't even bother trying to man the flak gun. Once I get the alarm I hit the "C" key immediately. Then about 10 seconds later I crank the rudder hard one way or the other.... So far no plane attacks have really been a threat. But if the Type IX takes much longer to dive. Then it might become a problem.... So what is the opinion of the experts? Radian

09-10-13, 01:52 PM	#2
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	No experts here. You will be killed either way probably. The dive times counts for me with a Type VII. The glory in the Golden West will fade very quickly. __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

09-10-13, 02:20 PM	#3
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	With a type IX you will get lots of patrol grids without the air menace and you will spend more time in quieter areas = better chance of staying alive longer. In actual combat situation I hate the type IX. I feel like I'm in a whale that just can't be always being found out visually, by ASDIC, hydrophone and depth charges. However I'm pretty sure that's just me and some bad initial experiences. In the game reality the difference compared to type VII is probably small and you should just take the IX with the long mid-Atlantic patrols with lots of time outside the range of aircraft. If you want play in a more historical way you would probably not have a choice. Your commanders would probably just order you a boat. Last edited by sublynx; 09-11-13 at 02:40 AM.

09-10-13, 04:02 PM	#4
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	Consider: a Type IX or The Eastern Front? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

09-10-13, 05:54 PM	#5
U1260 Sailor man Join Date: May 2012 Location: St. Johns MI Posts: 50 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	If it's July 1941 take the Type IX down to Freetown. __________________ "They haven't spotted us! They're all snoring in their bunks! Or you know what? They're drinking in the bar! Celebrating our sinking! Not yet, my friends. Not yet!"

09-12-13, 03:35 PM	#7
Tupolev Hauptman Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: FL410 Posts: 174 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I'm with sublynx on this one... Granted I've only taken out a IX on 4 or 5 patrols now, I always feel ungainly and awkward in it. Not sure if the turning radius is that much larger than the VII or not but it just feels like it. Then again that could just been the broad deck I see from the Turm... That said, its range is great. I do enjoy taking long 100ish day patrols in them. I only have to traverse the Biscay twice instead of the several times for the shorter patrols. I've done some checking on Uboat.net as well; seems the VIIs made a few ventures to the Caribbean too. With the help of the Milch Cows they made quite a few patrols far west.... T

09-18-13, 12:23 AM	#8
Rammstein0991 Engineer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NC USA Posts: 219 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	Properly used the IX can be much more of a threat than the VII, I mean part of the reason it was designed was to be a convoy stalker, you see this in its longer range and larger torpedo stores. In the end its all up to personal preference, so you might wanna play a bit of both if you're not sure.