What the hell is (null)?

Steve Gad · 08-19-13, 07:51 PM

After the new inventions and gadgets began creeping in, around 1942 I decided on a little flotilla hopping and settled on the 23rd/29th with the kicking bull mascot. Well, instead of "Base changed to...." I got "Base changed to (null)" then after many frustrated clicks on OK, it said "Base changed to (GO TO GAME)"

I had to crash SH3 just to get out. Has anyone else encountered this? Do you think its a Steam issue, is it a mod issue, or just a known bug at this point in the campaign?
I wish I'd stayed where I was now. I was happy at
Any help will put you top of my Christmas card list.

Thanks in advance.

Pisces · 08-20-13, 01:43 PM

"null" in developers/programmer-speak means nothing, zilch, nada, niente, empty. Somehow the code of the game can't come up with propper base name, and returns this value because of lack of a better response. Or appearantly sometimes a random index for text that is listed in SH3gamefolder\Data\Menu\en_menu.txt

Or a not so random index: index 0 is really empty, and index 1 means "GO TO GAME". Either way, the game made a booboo. Obviously a sign there are still bugs in SH3 to be found. However, Ubisoft won't be fixing it. So if it doesn't crash, be gratefull.

Steve Gad · 08-20-13, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pisces

"null" in developers-speak means nothing, zilch, nada, niente, empty. Somehow the code of the game can't come up with a base name, and returns this value because of lack of a better response. Obviously a sign there are still bugs in SH3 to be found. However, Ubisoft won't be fixing it.

Thanks Pisces. It's more annoying for the fact that I can't even click it away either, so it's either forgo my last patrol and load an earlier save (My saves go like this, Patrol, close. closer, suicide - then I sink) or find a way to make it at least insert something. As I'm not at all savvy in the programming dept, I can't see the latter working. Thanks for replying anyway mate.

Andrewsdad · 08-21-13, 07:49 AM

Salute, Steve !!!

When I was installing Hsie's mod I was having problems with appending two of the files (de_menu and en_menu) to get the correct text report to show for poor visibility conditions.

Each time I started Commander it showed NULL for the base and patrol area too. So I knew that the mod was not correct and it would surely ctd.

Once I figured out what I was doing wrong Commander showed the proper base and patrol area.

So, perhaps you have a faulty mod installation?

AD

08-19-13, 07:51 PM	#1
Steve Gad Bosun Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Mansfield, Notts. UK Posts: 69 Downloads: 521 Uploads: 0	What the hell is (null)? After the new inventions and gadgets began creeping in, around 1942 I decided on a little flotilla hopping and settled on the 23rd/29th with the kicking bull mascot. Well, instead of "Base changed to...." I got "Base changed to (null)" then after many frustrated clicks on OK, it said "Base changed to (GO TO GAME)" I had to crash SH3 just to get out. Has anyone else encountered this? Do you think its a Steam issue, is it a mod issue, or just a known bug at this point in the campaign? I wish I'd stayed where I was now. I was happy at Any help will put you top of my Christmas card list. Thanks in advance.

08-20-13, 01:43 PM	#2
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	"null" in developers/programmer-speak means nothing, zilch, nada, niente, empty. Somehow the code of the game can't come up with propper base name, and returns this value because of lack of a better response. Or appearantly sometimes a random index for text that is listed in SH3gamefolder\Data\Menu\en_menu.txt Or a not so random index: index 0 is really empty, and index 1 means "GO TO GAME". Either way, the game made a booboo. Obviously a sign there are still bugs in SH3 to be found. However, Ubisoft won't be fixing it. So if it doesn't crash, be gratefull. Last edited by Pisces; 08-20-13 at 01:55 PM.

08-21-13, 07:49 AM	#4
Andrewsdad Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 130 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Salute, Steve !!! When I was installing Hsie's mod I was having problems with appending two of the files (de_menu and en_menu) to get the correct text report to show for poor visibility conditions. Each time I started Commander it showed NULL for the base and patrol area too. So I knew that the mod was not correct and it would surely ctd. Once I figured out what I was doing wrong Commander showed the proper base and patrol area. So, perhaps you have a faulty mod installation? AD