This Sarasota news really steamed me

em2nought · 06-29-13, 09:50 PM

So, Sarasota has some great folks in charge!
Putting the Iwo Jima statue on display here would make us backward looking "crackers" (she didn't use the word, but she might as well) according to Public Art Committee Chairwoman Elizabeth Van Riper http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...aper?p=1&tc=pg

HundertzehnGustav · 06-29-13, 10:07 PM

That Statue represents.
As an european, i know it.
as someone interested in history, i attach something to it.

Must it be so that the statue gains respect, in a cemetary to push the point?
I think not. Only those Visitng said Cemetary will see it and remember.
The Statue will be put to rest, put away on a cemetary.

Must that Statue stand in a public place, in a setting that leads to silence and contemplation and reflection?
very much so. The Statue can still pass a message. the events are recent, or fairly recent.
Therefor the Values i carries can still be transported to the younger generations.
These values can be of a big inspiration for further generations to act, to get on their feet and to fight.
Fight their own lazyness and the inner devil.
Fight together, not alone.
Fight for a cause, and see things through.
and many more.

maybe the question to ask is this one:
WHAT IS this statue?

mookiemookie · 06-29-13, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

she didn't use the word, but she might as well

Uh...what?

06-30-13, 03:16 AM

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Uh...what?

Indeed, the post seems to have nothing to do with the subject.

Platapus · 06-30-13, 06:44 AM

I am not getting any controversy with this story. Sounds like the city is taking the decision of where to put this statute pretty seriously.

I agree with Susan Chapman in that this decision should not be rushed.

em2nought · 06-30-13, 09:36 AM

What I don't like is the insinuation that if "we" put that statue on display "we" would be "backwards".

...and as HundertzehnGustav says, they seem to want to bury it instead. Lets not think about our past at all. Seriously, what could we possibly learn. Wouldn't the street look so much better lined with rainbow flags or a really nice phallic piece of modern art, maybe something that incorporates burning the 'merican flag, that's always popular with the artsy crowd.

06-30-13, 10:51 AM

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What I don't like is the insinuation that if "we" put that statue on display "we" would be "backwards".

As was said.
Uh....what?

Neither of your posts appear to have anything to do with......
"It also potentially puts Sarasota in a category of looking backwards, and I think as a community we need to be looking forwards."
.....maybe it is all just a reading fail on your part.

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Lets not think about our past at all. Seriously, what could we possibly learn. Wouldn't the street look so much better lined with rainbow flags or a really nice phallic piece of modern art, maybe something that incorporates burning the 'merican flag, that's always popular with the artsy crowd.

Or perhaps it does suggest from both your posts that you are simply ranting just to rant about your own issues

Oberon · 06-30-13, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Or perhaps it does suggest from both your posts that you are simply ranting just to rant about your own issues

C'est la GT.

06-30-13, 12:18 PM

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C'est la GT.

Don't you bring the French into the Grande Theatricals.

Wolferz · 06-30-13, 12:28 PM

Ars Gratia Artis?

Spiced_Rum · 06-30-13, 12:30 PM

I do not live in Sarasota, however, if I did then I would like to see the statue in a park where a piece of great 20th Century art can be admired by all (or not, as art is subjective). Arlington already has the national Iwo Jima memorial so no point placing the statue in another cemetery. It could go inside a museum but I think it is better outside where it can weather with time and is more accessible. It is a town planning issue, and if tax dollars are being spent then the citizens should have a say.

Wolferz · 06-30-13, 01:01 PM

This is a replica of the statue in Arlington.
It's in the veterans section of the cemetery where my father is buried.
A cemetery is a place of rest. A place to remember with quiet reflection on those who have gone before us.
I don't consider the statue as being buried there. It is there as a memorial to the sacrifices of our men in uniform.
It shouldn't matter where Sarasota decides to put theirs and raising a ruckus about it just shows disrespect in my eyes.

06-29-13, 09:50 PM	#1
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This Sarasota news really steamed me So, Sarasota has some great folks in charge! Putting the Iwo Jima statue on display here would make us backward looking "crackers" (she didn't use the word, but she might as well) according to Public Art Committee Chairwoman Elizabeth Van Riper http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...aper?p=1&tc=pg __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

06-29-13, 10:07 PM	#2
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	That Statue represents. As an european, i know it. as someone interested in history, i attach something to it. Must it be so that the statue gains respect, in a cemetary to push the point? I think not. Only those Visitng said Cemetary will see it and remember. The Statue will be put to rest, put away on a cemetary. Must that Statue stand in a public place, in a setting that leads to silence and contemplation and reflection? very much so. The Statue can still pass a message. the events are recent, or fairly recent. Therefor the Values i carries can still be transported to the younger generations. These values can be of a big inspiration for further generations to act, to get on their feet and to fight. Fight their own lazyness and the inner devil. Fight together, not alone. Fight for a cause, and see things through. and many more. maybe the question to ask is this one: WHAT IS this statue? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

06-30-13, 06:44 AM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I am not getting any controversy with this story. Sounds like the city is taking the decision of where to put this statute pretty seriously. I agree with Susan Chapman in that this decision should not be rushed. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

06-30-13, 09:36 AM	#6
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What I don't like is the insinuation that if "we" put that statue on display "we" would be "backwards". ...and as HundertzehnGustav says, they seem to want to bury it instead. Lets not think about our past at all. Seriously, what could we possibly learn. Wouldn't the street look so much better lined with rainbow flags or a really nice phallic piece of modern art, maybe something that incorporates burning the 'merican flag, that's always popular with the artsy crowd. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

06-30-13, 12:28 PM	#10
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Ars Gratia Artis? __________________ Tomorrow never comes

06-30-13, 12:30 PM	#11
Spiced_Rum Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2013 Location: Enjoying a run ashore Posts: 1,129 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	I do not live in Sarasota, however, if I did then I would like to see the statue in a park where a piece of great 20th Century art can be admired by all (or not, as art is subjective). Arlington already has the national Iwo Jima memorial so no point placing the statue in another cemetery. It could go inside a museum but I think it is better outside where it can weather with time and is more accessible. It is a town planning issue, and if tax dollars are being spent then the citizens should have a say. __________________ Spiced_Rum "The only rocks I want to see are in my glass, and covered with lashings of Spicey and Coke"

06-30-13, 01:01 PM	#12
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	This is a replica of the statue in Arlington. It's in the veterans section of the cemetery where my father is buried. A cemetery is a place of rest. A place to remember with quiet reflection on those who have gone before us. I don't consider the statue as being buried there. It is there as a memorial to the sacrifices of our men in uniform. It shouldn't matter where Sarasota decides to put theirs and raising a ruckus about it just shows disrespect in my eyes. __________________ Tomorrow never comes