Alternative to slaughterhouses

Skybird · 04-03-13, 05:36 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-892076.html

I'm all for it. The death in factories, the terror and stress the animals has to endure before finally - sometimes painfully - being relieved from the horror, is what has turned me away from eating much meat, and had turned me even into a vegetarian for ten years. Since that decade, I eat meat again, but only rarely, and never as daily spread on bread anyway. I try to buy from a local farmer only, when finances allow.

I would ban halal and kosher slaughtering as well. Were religion claims the right for cruelty and inflicting unnecessary pain on creature, or on the weak, I immediately turn hostile.

HundertzehnGustav · 04-03-13, 07:27 AM

i do not eat meat often either, and even less since i call an animal my closest family Member.

how do i best put it...

Give them a good life, give them a short and painfree, unexpected death.
Especially cattle, who do not have a lot of "Value" and get little Respect from Humans.

"+999" to the thinking of this group of people.
Now if the cattle could also be processed on the Farm itself, by the same group of people that raises them, eliminating the industrial Complexes alltogether, i would be willing to pay double cash for that Meat.

AVGWarhawk · 04-03-13, 07:38 AM

To be honest, eating a meal comprised of vegetables make me feel less weighted down and bit less tired than a meal with a meat as part of it. I have tried to reduce my meat intake as a result.

Feuer Frei! · 04-03-13, 08:05 AM

Ethics of eating meat.
If we are talking about factory farms, then there are 2 possible reforms or solutions that can be, and in fact are constantly being sought.
The system of slaughtering animals for consumption needs to be reformed to more humane standards, and the second being promoting veganism.
Both have their downsides. Both have their ups.
If you want to bring religion into this because if we do then that then becomes religious slaughter, then i say this:
the jewish and even the muslim faith have specific requirements for the slaughter of animals.
"And ye shall be men of holy calling unto Me, and ye shall not eat any meat that is torn in the field" (Exodus XXII:30)

In Europe and the U.S. highly stressful restraint devices are still being used.

Objective evaluation is needed.

04-03-13, 08:31 AM

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Now if the cattle could also be processed on the Farm itself, by the same group of people that raises them, eliminating the industrial Complexes alltogether, i would be willing to pay double cash for that Meat.

Then you would probably run afoul of the on farm processing laws which are rather strict to prevent cross contamination.

Skybird · 04-03-13, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

If you want to bring religion into this because if we do then that then becomes religious slaughter, then i say this:
the jewish and even the muslim faith have specific requirements for the slaughter of animals.
"And ye shall be men of holy calling unto Me, and ye shall not eat any meat that is torn in the field" (Exodus XXII:30)

Until some years ago I used to think that cutting the aorta/throat in an animal would give it a quick and painfree death within seconds, due to the fast drop in blood pressure in the had and brain and thus having the animal black out quickly. However, I had to learn info on that this assumption is wrong, and that animals stay consciousness quite long and obviously suffer a great amount of agony, fear, pain and terror.

Since I learned that, I do not tolerate religious motives for these intentionally painful slaughtering methods anymore. With the irrationality of people I could live, as long as I do not need to care for them and do not get bothered with labels like halal or kosher when buying food myself. With the cruelty, I refuse to live. That's why I avoid industrially produced meat. Why should I make an exception for religious excuses here?

AVGWarhawk · 04-03-13, 10:27 AM

Skybird, take a look at Temple Grandin. A autistic woman who understood the pain and suffering at slaughter. She devised a system to help lessen what your are objecting to in the slaughter house. It does not cure your thoughts and feeling about it but you are not alone when it comes to slaughtering practices. Some have tried to make it more humane.

http://templegrandin.com/

Corral Designed by Grandin

http://www.grandin.com/design/design.html

04-03-13, 05:36 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Alternative to slaughterhouses http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-892076.html I'm all for it. The death in factories, the terror and stress the animals has to endure before finally - sometimes painfully - being relieved from the horror, is what has turned me away from eating much meat, and had turned me even into a vegetarian for ten years. Since that decade, I eat meat again, but only rarely, and never as daily spread on bread anyway. I try to buy from a local farmer only, when finances allow. I would ban halal and kosher slaughtering as well. Were religion claims the right for cruelty and inflicting unnecessary pain on creature, or on the weak, I immediately turn hostile. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-03-13, 07:27 AM	#2
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	i do not eat meat often either, and even less since i call an animal my closest family Member. how do i best put it... Give them a good life, give them a short and painfree, unexpected death. Especially cattle, who do not have a lot of "Value" and get little Respect from Humans. "+999" to the thinking of this group of people. Now if the cattle could also be processed on the Farm itself, by the same group of people that raises them, eliminating the industrial Complexes alltogether, i would be willing to pay double cash for that Meat. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

04-03-13, 08:05 AM	#4
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Ethics of eating meat. If we are talking about factory farms, then there are 2 possible reforms or solutions that can be, and in fact are constantly being sought. The system of slaughtering animals for consumption needs to be reformed to more humane standards, and the second being promoting veganism. Both have their downsides. Both have their ups. If you want to bring religion into this because if we do then that then becomes religious slaughter, then i say this: the jewish and even the muslim faith have specific requirements for the slaughter of animals. "And ye shall be men of holy calling unto Me, and ye shall not eat any meat that is torn in the field" (Exodus XXII:30) In Europe and the U.S. highly stressful restraint devices are still being used. Objective evaluation is needed. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

04-03-13, 07:38 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	To be honest, eating a meal comprised of vegetables make me feel less weighted down and bit less tired than a meal with a meat as part of it. I have tried to reduce my meat intake as a result.

04-03-13, 10:27 AM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Skybird, take a look at Temple Grandin. A autistic woman who understood the pain and suffering at slaughter. She devised a system to help lessen what your are objecting to in the slaughter house. It does not cure your thoughts and feeling about it but you are not alone when it comes to slaughtering practices. Some have tried to make it more humane. http://templegrandin.com/ Corral Designed by Grandin http://www.grandin.com/design/design.html