eels that are too accurate?

Rhurac · 03-05-13, 02:52 PM

hey again guys!
i was wondering if there was a mod/program that i could use the adjust the accuracy of acoustic eels. They seem to be way too accurate for my taste. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

p.s. I tried finding minitweaks but all links i found were dead

"All ships were designed to sink, some just need our help!"

03-05-13, 03:50 PM

Those are controlled by hard code.

Jimbuna · 03-06-13, 08:44 AM

In the realism options selec the dud torpedoes option....this won't alter the accuracy but it will reduce the number that cause damage.

Rhurac · 03-06-13, 10:24 AM

I have Duds turned on but i must be extremely lucky out my entire loadout in my type 9 d sub i might have 1 or 2 duds, just was looking for another way to make it more challenging. Guess i'll just have to live with it

03-06-13, 10:28 AM

Use S3D and reduce the turn radius.
It will stop the Eel from makeing as tight a turn.
Any one know if this is a Commander malfunction?
Would be a good one if not!

TorpX · 03-06-13, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Use S3D and reduce the turn radius.
It will stop the Eel from makeing as tight a turn.

Reducing the radius would make a tighter turn, increasing the radius would make turning slower (looser?).

Santini · 03-07-13, 01:55 AM

That and the fact that you generally get less renown then the cost of the acoustic XD

HW3 · 03-07-13, 01:55 PM

Acoustic eels were effective when first employed against convoys ONS 18 and ON 22 where 9 ships were sunk using them, and they worked well on the escorts. There were a total of 640 fired in combat sinking 45 ships, how many of that number were fired after the introduction of Foxer, I do not know. That is the reason the Allies quickly came up with counter measures like Foxer to defeat them. Foxer had its limitations though as towing speed was limited to 14 knots, and the towing ships SONAR was useless due to the noise. Unfortunately the sim does not model Foxer, or anything like it to defeat the acoustics. The best answer I can give is limit yourself to 1 or 2 of them. Noise makers like Foxer were in production by July 1943.

Rhurac · 03-07-13, 01:55 PM

Just wanted to say thank you everyone for your input!

while i am thinking about it, is there a good mod that adds TDC to periscope other than hitman optics? my game and hitman don;t really like each other..lol

Rhurac · 03-07-13, 02:07 PM

while i am thinking about it, is there a good mod that adds TDC to periscope other than hitman optics? my game and hitman don;t really like each other..lol

nevermind i found one i like and will work with me!

irish1958 · 03-08-13, 09:09 AM

If you select duds, play at 100% realism, and are using one of the major mega mods, you are a better man than I if you think the hit rate is too high.
That said does anyone know what the typical load out was past mid 1943?
Were the subs carrying all acustics?

David I · 03-08-13, 01:56 PM

I am currently reading Clay Blair's "Hitler's U-boat War" and am constantly amazed by how often the German Electric and Air torpedos failed. Often U-Boats set up shots to have 4 of 4 torpedos go too deep, fizzle in the tube, mis-direct or just flat out miss. BDU put numerous commissions onto trying to resove these problems and were never completely successful.

In game terms if torpedos worked the way they did in real life many players would just quit playing out of frustration. Certainly there were morale problems with the real U-Boat crews.

By the way I highly recommend reading both volumes of Blair's awesome work.

David I

Andrewsdad · 03-11-13, 02:59 PM

Don't have the link, but do an on-line search for "Wolves Without Teeth."

It is a dissertation about the German torpedo crisis which has a lot of interesting info.

AD

Jimbuna · 03-11-13, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewsdad

Don't have the link, but do an on-line search for "Wolves Without Teeth."

It is a dissertation about the German torpedo crisis which has a lot of interesting info.

AD

http://eaglescholar.georgiasouthern...._201005_MA.pdf

TheDude107 · 03-11-13, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

Reducing the radius would make a tighter turn, increasing the radius would make turning slower (looser?).

Correct, kinda! Increase the turn radius for less maneuverability. The turn would be done at the same speed but I think you were reffering to shape.

03-05-13, 02:52 PM	#1
Rhurac Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 8 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	eels that are too accurate? hey again guys! i was wondering if there was a mod/program that i could use the adjust the accuracy of acoustic eels. They seem to be way too accurate for my taste. Any help would be greatly appreciated. p.s. I tried finding minitweaks but all links i found were dead "All ships were designed to sink, some just need our help!"

03-06-13, 08:44 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	In the realism options selec the dud torpedoes option....this won't alter the accuracy but it will reduce the number that cause damage. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-07-13, 01:55 PM	#8
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	Acoustic eels were effective when first employed against convoys ONS 18 and ON 22 where 9 ships were sunk using them, and they worked well on the escorts. There were a total of 640 fired in combat sinking 45 ships, how many of that number were fired after the introduction of Foxer, I do not know. That is the reason the Allies quickly came up with counter measures like Foxer to defeat them. Foxer had its limitations though as towing speed was limited to 14 knots, and the towing ships SONAR was useless due to the noise. Unfortunately the sim does not model Foxer, or anything like it to defeat the acoustics. The best answer I can give is limit yourself to 1 or 2 of them. Noise makers like Foxer were in production by July 1943. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

03-08-13, 09:09 AM	#11
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	If you select duds, play at 100% realism, and are using one of the major mega mods, you are a better man than I if you think the hit rate is too high. That said does anyone know what the typical load out was past mid 1943? Were the subs carrying all acustics? __________________ Irish1958

03-05-13, 03:50 PM	#2
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Those are controlled by hard code.

03-06-13, 10:24 AM	#4
Rhurac Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 8 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I have Duds turned on but i must be extremely lucky out my entire loadout in my type 9 d sub i might have 1 or 2 duds, just was looking for another way to make it more challenging. Guess i'll just have to live with it

03-06-13, 10:28 AM	#5
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Use S3D and reduce the turn radius. It will stop the Eel from makeing as tight a turn. Any one know if this is a Commander malfunction? Would be a good one if not!

03-07-13, 01:55 AM	#7
Santini Medic Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 168 Downloads: 389 Uploads: 1	That and the fact that you generally get less renown then the cost of the acoustic XD

03-07-13, 02:07 PM	#10
Rhurac Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 8 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	while i am thinking about it, is there a good mod that adds TDC to periscope other than hitman optics? my game and hitman don;t really like each other..lol nevermind i found one i like and will work with me!

03-08-13, 01:56 PM	#12
David I Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 231 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I am currently reading Clay Blair's "Hitler's U-boat War" and am constantly amazed by how often the German Electric and Air torpedos failed. Often U-Boats set up shots to have 4 of 4 torpedos go too deep, fizzle in the tube, mis-direct or just flat out miss. BDU put numerous commissions onto trying to resove these problems and were never completely successful. In game terms if torpedos worked the way they did in real life many players would just quit playing out of frustration. Certainly there were morale problems with the real U-Boat crews. By the way I highly recommend reading both volumes of Blair's awesome work. David I

03-11-13, 02:59 PM	#13
Andrewsdad Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 130 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Don't have the link, but do an on-line search for "Wolves Without Teeth." It is a dissertation about the German torpedo crisis which has a lot of interesting info. AD