Data Retention

Skybird · 02-05-13, 08:08 PM

I sometimes notice that people take it easy when it comes to how easily a profile of their habits and movement patterns is being established and recorded on them because they carry an active cellphone with them. Maybe this interactive graphic helps to cure that a bit.

http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte...data-retention

Zoom into the map to reach a reasonable scaling. Then either just run the animation by clicking the play button, or move your cursors to the graphs below the map that list dates, and time of day for each day (leftclick and hold while moving laterally or vertically).

Then realize that this kind of data is recorded when you have an active cellphone with you. That it is recorded, and you have no real control over who gets these data, and does what with it. Maybe you even live in a country where the storage of such data is legally possible for ten and 15 years.

Then imagine what can be learned about you if somebody decides to use these data against you. And what these data reveal about you when combining them with more data about yourself, won by other sources like social networks, commercial data mining, use of your credit cards, and so on. Not to mention data traffic you send and receive.

The data belongs to a Green politician who sued the Deutsche Telekom to get access to the data stored about him, and then revealing his data to the newspaper to make this project possible.

August · 02-05-13, 08:44 PM

I guess the lesson for criminals is when engaged in nefarious activities turn your cellphone off or better yet give it to a trusted accomplice who can take it far away from the scene of the crime thereby establishing an alibi.

HundertzehnGustav · 02-06-13, 04:11 AM

Good Job!

and the fact that he sued them first made the Telecom look like evil bastages.
LOL!

Mine is on, but as i do not use it often and only a few sms and phone calls (10 euro every two weeks) are made, its okay by me.
Were i a criminal, or would i use the phone the way i use a computer i would be much more paranoid.

Jimbuna · 02-06-13, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

I guess the lesson for criminals is when engaged in nefarious activities turn your cellphone off or better yet give it to a trusted accomplice who can take it far away from the scene of the crime thereby establishing an alibi.

Either that or pinch one from someone you dislike

Skybird · 02-12-13, 01:09 PM

One step further.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-media-defence

the_tyrant · 02-12-13, 01:35 PM

Reminds me of four lions, where the terrorist wannabes were told to eat their sim cards

geetrue · 02-12-13, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

I sometimes notice that people take it easy when it comes to how easily a profile of their habits and movement patterns is being established and recorded on them because they carry an active cellphone with them.

Then realize that this kind of data is recorded when you have an active cellphone with you. That it is recorded, and you have no real control over who gets these data, and does what with it. Maybe you even live in a country where the storage of such data is legally possible for ten and 15 years.

Then imagine what can be learned about you if somebody decides to use these data against you. And what these data reveal about you when combining them with more data about yourself, won by other sources like social networks, commercial data mining, use of your credit cards, and so on.

Why think this is a bad thing when in fact this data could be used as a good thing to improve ones wasted time habits with better time magagement skills.

Plug in time online, time in front of TV, time on facebook, time spent on game consoles, time on news events (am or pm) time being entertained, time to feed your face etc.

if we could receive better feed back on our wasted amounts of time ... this would be a good thing.

I know of a professional sales course that teaches time management and it was not a waste of time for one indivdule that I know of, but that was 25 years ago.

I myself am a lost cause when it comes to time

Skybird · 02-12-13, 03:06 PM

You only have time when you waste it. When you have no time to waste because you have most economically planned every minute of your day - you find that you have no time.

Reminds me of the "You can!" seminaries they sold in the early 90s. The "feel well" courses they sold. The "be optimistic" crashcourse events they sold. The "motivate yourself" teachings they sold.

What all that had in common is, that it was: sold for money. Which implies that somebody else was making the money with selling this nonsense.

02-12-13, 03:37 PM

Raytheon's biggest buyer would probably be Wal-Mart or Wall Street.
We've tracker each other since day one.
Why would anyone think things are different now?

Did you honestly think any connected device would not be tracked somehow, sometime?
It's got to be tracked to do it's job to start!

That some 'EVIL' entity would take it to the next level should not be a surprise moment.

And if they admit to this stuff? What are they not telling you?
That's the surprise.

Jimbuna · 02-12-13, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Raytheon's biggest buyer would probably be Wal-Mart or Wall Street.
We've tracker each other since day one.
Why would anyone think things are different now?

Did you honestly think any connected device would not be tracked somehow, sometime?
It's got to be tracked to do it's job to start!

That some 'EVIL' entity would take it to the next level should not be a surprise moment.

And if they admit to this stuff? What are they not telling you?
That's the surprise.

Rgr that

02-05-13, 08:08 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Data Retention I sometimes notice that people take it easy when it comes to how easily a profile of their habits and movement patterns is being established and recorded on them because they carry an active cellphone with them. Maybe this interactive graphic helps to cure that a bit. http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte...data-retention Zoom into the map to reach a reasonable scaling. Then either just run the animation by clicking the play button, or move your cursors to the graphs below the map that list dates, and time of day for each day (leftclick and hold while moving laterally or vertically). Then realize that this kind of data is recorded when you have an active cellphone with you. That it is recorded, and you have no real control over who gets these data, and does what with it. Maybe you even live in a country where the storage of such data is legally possible for ten and 15 years. Then imagine what can be learned about you if somebody decides to use these data against you. And what these data reveal about you when combining them with more data about yourself, won by other sources like social networks, commercial data mining, use of your credit cards, and so on. Not to mention data traffic you send and receive. The data belongs to a Green politician who sued the Deutsche Telekom to get access to the data stored about him, and then revealing his data to the newspaper to make this project possible. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-05-13, 08:44 PM	#2
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I guess the lesson for criminals is when engaged in nefarious activities turn your cellphone off or better yet give it to a trusted accomplice who can take it far away from the scene of the crime thereby establishing an alibi. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

02-06-13, 04:11 AM	#3
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Good Job! and the fact that he sued them first made the Telecom look like evil bastages. LOL! Mine is on, but as i do not use it often and only a few sms and phone calls (10 euro every two weeks) are made, its okay by me. Were i a criminal, or would i use the phone the way i use a computer i would be much more paranoid. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-12-13, 01:09 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	One step further. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-media-defence __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-12-13, 01:35 PM	#6
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Reminds me of four lions, where the terrorist wannabes were told to eat their sim cards __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

02-12-13, 03:06 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You only have time when you waste it. When you have no time to waste because you have most economically planned every minute of your day - you find that you have no time. Reminds me of the "You can!" seminaries they sold in the early 90s. The "feel well" courses they sold. The "be optimistic" crashcourse events they sold. The "motivate yourself" teachings they sold. What all that had in common is, that it was: sold for money. Which implies that somebody else was making the money with selling this nonsense. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-12-13, 03:37 PM	#9
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Raytheon's biggest buyer would probably be Wal-Mart or Wall Street. We've tracker each other since day one. Why would anyone think things are different now? Did you honestly think any connected device would not be tracked somehow, sometime? It's got to be tracked to do it's job to start! That some 'EVIL' entity would take it to the next level should not be a surprise moment. And if they admit to this stuff? What are they not telling you? That's the surprise.