about the clock

makman94 · 01-30-13, 02:54 PM

hello to all ,

does anyone knows what these black and red mark parts on the clock means?

Lindley · 01-30-13, 06:22 PM

All I could find:

BRASS RADIO ROOM DECK CLOCK FOR U.S. MARITIME COMMISSION,

WWII era, unmarked, of solid, polished red bronze; 12/24 hour spun brass 6" dial face with second bits at 12 o'clock, black enamel spade hands and numerals, fast-slow regulator, marked with red sectors which reflect periods of silence observed by radio operators to monitor airwaves for distress signals; 7" diameter across screw bezel and 7.25" across mounting flange. Dial engraved and painted in black letters U.S. Maritime Commission.

vanjast · 01-31-13, 02:14 PM

I guess if your sinking or sunk between those markers..... you're sunk!!

Singed · 01-31-13, 02:44 PM

I'd seen them before and at some point growing up around boats I'd heard there were radio silence periods, maybe in a marine antiques store or something. At least with a starting point, I knew where to look.

The two red bands are periods of radio silence during which only distress signals can be transmitted. The two black bands correspond with the green bands on some other clocks, and those two periods were also radio silence to listen for coastal distress signals.

http://www.chelseaclock.com/site_ass...pdf?1315842133

Go down and look at the radio room clock.

reaper7 · 01-31-13, 04:05 PM

Very interesting.

brett25 · 01-31-13, 06:08 PM

this is why i love subsim! great info there mate, great post makman

Harald_Lange · 02-01-13, 08:36 AM

Fascinating stuff, never knew that

Gerald · 02-01-13, 08:42 AM

@Singed

Interesting link, and explanation of symbols

Mork_417 · 02-02-13, 04:29 AM

Learned something new today.

VONHARRIS · 02-02-13, 05:29 AM

That was new for me as well.
Nice find Singed

Hitman · 02-02-13, 10:39 AM

Yup, truly amazing how much uses they got from the same instruments. There were for example other clocks in ships right next to the helmsman that would ring in certain moments (You set the period of time) to remind him to make a course change

Singed · 02-02-13, 01:47 PM

Eh the thanks to me are unfounded guys, I just sailed since I was 3 years old and spent some time in musty old ship chandlers. There use to be one at the foot of a bridge in San Leon that had all kinds neat old stuff and a parrot that screamed "help help help". I couldn't have been more than 10.

Real thanks go to Makman94 for finding interesting stuff and posting it to jog memories like this.

The one that would interest this forum is my grandfather telling me about the U-Boat spotted off Galveston by one of the coastal batteries. Sadly that is all I remember and he passed away in 77 (WWII Marine, Pacific).

HW3 · 02-02-13, 03:30 PM

Might have been U-171. http://www.uboat.net/articles/42.html

makman94 · 02-06-13, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindley

All I could find:

BRASS RADIO ROOM DECK CLOCK FOR U.S. MARITIME COMMISSION,

WWII era, unmarked, of solid, polished red bronze; 12/24 hour spun brass 6" dial face with second bits at 12 o'clock, black enamel spade hands and numerals, fast-slow regulator, marked with red sectors which reflect periods of silence observed by radio operators to monitor airwaves for distress signals; 7" diameter across screw bezel and 7.25" across mounting flange. Dial engraved and painted in black letters U.S. Maritime Commission.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singed

I'd seen them before and at some point growing up around boats I'd heard there were radio silence periods, maybe in a marine antiques store or something. At least with a starting point, I knew where to look.

The two red bands are periods of radio silence during which only distress signals can be transmitted. The two black bands correspond with the green bands on some other clocks, and those two periods were also radio silence to listen for coastal distress signals.

http://www.chelseaclock.com/site_ass...pdf?1315842133

Go down and look at the radio room clock.

thank you guys !
it is very interesting discovering things like that and i think i got an idea of what possibly these marked areas stood for.
Lindley's post also is giving a good point of their use ,saying ''...reflecting periods of silence observed by radio operators to monitor airwaves for distress signals''.
is this the same point that Signed's post says ?(my english are not helping me much here)
as i get it so far is that these marked areas where only for transimiting sos signal messages.but the question is : sos messages where on specific frequences on radio,what does the clock has to do with this ?

Lindley · 02-06-13, 05:35 PM

Here this has more information:
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/RAMN2012/Pacific/Part4

A bit long however when the clock hands were at the time marked the radio operator would not send messages. Only listen on distress frequencies for any transmissions.

01-30-13, 02:54 PM	#1
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01-30-13, 06:22 PM	#2
Lindley Medic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ireland Posts: 167 Downloads: 377 Uploads: 0	All I could find: BRASS RADIO ROOM DECK CLOCK FOR U.S. MARITIME COMMISSION, WWII era, unmarked, of solid, polished red bronze; 12/24 hour spun brass 6" dial face with second bits at 12 o'clock, black enamel spade hands and numerals, fast-slow regulator, marked with red sectors which reflect periods of silence observed by radio operators to monitor airwaves for distress signals; 7" diameter across screw bezel and 7.25" across mounting flange. Dial engraved and painted in black letters U.S. Maritime Commission. __________________ It's true (allegedly)

01-31-13, 06:08 PM	#6
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	this is why i love subsim! great info there mate, great post makman __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

02-01-13, 08:42 AM	#8
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	@Singed Interesting link, and explanation of symbols __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

02-02-13, 04:29 AM	#9
Mork_417 Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: DB-15 Posts: 851 Downloads: 263 Uploads: 0	Learned something new today. __________________ Heading to AM49.(U-553)

01-31-13, 02:14 PM	#3
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,733 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	I guess if your sinking or sunk between those markers..... you're sunk!!

01-31-13, 02:44 PM	#4
Singed Sailbad the Sinner Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 106 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	I'd seen them before and at some point growing up around boats I'd heard there were radio silence periods, maybe in a marine antiques store or something. At least with a starting point, I knew where to look. The two red bands are periods of radio silence during which only distress signals can be transmitted. The two black bands correspond with the green bands on some other clocks, and those two periods were also radio silence to listen for coastal distress signals. http://www.chelseaclock.com/site_ass...pdf?1315842133 Go down and look at the radio room clock.

01-31-13, 04:05 PM	#5
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Very interesting.

02-01-13, 08:36 AM	#7
Harald_Lange Ensign Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY Harbour, Periscope depth. Posts: 235 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Fascinating stuff, never knew that

02-02-13, 05:29 AM	#10
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	That was new for me as well. Nice find Singed

02-02-13, 10:39 AM	#11
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Yup, truly amazing how much uses they got from the same instruments. There were for example other clocks in ships right next to the helmsman that would ring in certain moments (You set the period of time) to remind him to make a course change __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

02-02-13, 01:47 PM	#12
Singed Sailbad the Sinner Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 106 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Eh the thanks to me are unfounded guys, I just sailed since I was 3 years old and spent some time in musty old ship chandlers. There use to be one at the foot of a bridge in San Leon that had all kinds neat old stuff and a parrot that screamed "help help help". I couldn't have been more than 10. Real thanks go to Makman94 for finding interesting stuff and posting it to jog memories like this. The one that would interest this forum is my grandfather telling me about the U-Boat spotted off Galveston by one of the coastal batteries. Sadly that is all I remember and he passed away in 77 (WWII Marine, Pacific).

02-02-13, 03:30 PM	#13
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	Might have been U-171. http://www.uboat.net/articles/42.html __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

02-06-13, 05:35 PM	#15
Lindley Medic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ireland Posts: 167 Downloads: 377 Uploads: 0	Here this has more information: http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/RAMN2012/Pacific/Part4 A bit long however when the clock hands were at the time marked the radio operator would not send messages. Only listen on distress frequencies for any transmissions. __________________ It's true (allegedly)