Coming up: Shortest and least deadly school shooting in history

[GoldenRivet]

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-town-all...081017416.html

Texas understands it...

So if it goes off instead of a school shooting will it be a going postal situation where life on gets too much for a person with a gun and they rampage their workplace.
Texas understands it

[AVGWarhawk]

In remote Harrold, the nearest sheriff's office is 30 minutes away, and people tend to know — and trust — one another. So the school board voted to let teachers bring guns to school.

If you know and trust someone why the need for a gun

[GoldenRivet]

ask the neighbors of this kid and his mother up in Sandy Hook... you ever really know your neighbor?

the guy next door to me could be just brimming over first thing tomorrow morning with enough rage to gun down mall patrons. I wouldnt know

I say arm the teachers that wish to be armed... of all the teachers i have known in my life as a student, and just known personally, i have known them to be trustworthy responsible people.

if just one of the sandy hook teachers had a firearm, who knows? this entire tragedy could have been prevented or the death toll greatly reduced.

all i know for sure is if i were going to send my kid off to public school first thing on a monday morning, i'd feel better if the teacher had a colt .45 under his coat

sad we live in such a time where someone would feel that way, but we do.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

all i know for sure is if i were going to send my kid off to public school first thing on a monday morning, i'd feel better if the teacher had a colt .45 under his coat

sad we live in such a time where someone would feel that way, but we do.

Yes it is and I do worry from time to time concerning my daughters in HS. There is a county officer assigned to the school all day. It has been this way for years. He is armed and can effect arrest like his fellow officers. I do believe he deters would be issues.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes it is and I do worry from time to time concerning my daughters in HS. There is a county officer assigned to the school all day. It has been this way for years. He is armed and can effect arrest like his fellow officers. I do believe he deters would be issues.

Liaison officers

i recall having one when i went to high school, he mostly broke up fist fights and even served warrants on a couple of seniors once. but thats pretty much it thankfully. all the kids liked him, stopped between classes to visit with him, knew him by name though i cannot recall his name now

he really helped the kids associate good things with the police force

i think the problem with having uniformed liaison officers on school property is that they will usually be the first targeted in a shooting and would never know what hit them thereby eliminating them as a deterrent if the situation came up.

when i was a kid growing up we never really had school shootings or even really heard of such things happening. I was entering my sophomore year and we heard that a kid had a gun on school property but it ended up being a hunting rifle in the back window of the truck - he had brought his father's truck to school because his wouldn't start. The only thing that came of it was that his dad had to come to the school and retrieve the rifle and it was back to business as usual.

i remember another year there was a "bomb scare" when a teacher found a suspicious package in the school court yard. school was delayed about 2 hours (i ended up just staying home all day) it ended up being nothing and there was no threat of any kind so it was just more or less a matter of approaching the situation with caution.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

ask the neighbors of this kid and his mother up in Sandy Hook... you ever really know your neighbor?

the guy next door to me could be just brimming over first thing tomorrow morning with enough rage to gun down mall patrons. I wouldnt know

I say arm the teachers that wish to be armed... of all the teachers i have known in my life as a student, and just known personally, i have known them to be trustworthy responsible people.

if just one of the sandy hook teachers had a firearm, who knows? this entire tragedy could have been prevented or the death toll greatly reduced.

all i know for sure is if i were going to send my kid off to public school first thing on a monday morning, i'd feel better if the teacher had a colt .45 under his coat

sad we live in such a time where someone would feel that way, but we do.

I would not prefer any/all teachers to be carrying, but I am 100% in favor of training principals and APs and issuing them emergency shotgun, in a secure place in their office. At least until this craze passes.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

So if it goes off instead of a school shooting will it be a going postal situation where life on gets too much for a person with a gun and they rampage their workplace.
Texas understands it

Huh? Some of Yubba's rants make more sense than that.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Huh? Some of Yubba's rants make more sense than that.

He is being negative.

I posted it so he has to find a reason to disagree with it.

in Tribesman's mind the options are

1. school shooting with unarmed teachers results in kids getting killed

2. arm the teachers they will just freak out mid algebra and kill the kids anyhow



riiiiight

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

He is being negative.

My comment wasn't about his attitude, or his opinion. It was about the fact that part of his sentence literally made no sense.

riiiiight

Wrong.
Like you say yourself.I find some of the reasoning to allow the teachers to carry guns in school a bit odd and reaching.

Or put it another way, if guns are the problem how are guns the answer.

One puzzling thing, if the school cannot afford security how can it afford to have 1 member of staff for every 2 pupils?

Huh? Some of Yubba's rants make more sense than that.

It was about the fact that part of his sentence literally made no sense.

Really?
what is the difference between other shootings and someone going postal?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Or put it another way, if guns are the problem how are guns the answer.

Because guns aren't the problem. The problem is that some people are insane. We can't seem to cure them, or even spot them before they harm someone else, so we come up with different ideas about how to protect ourselves.

Of course your answer is to ridicule any opinion that differs from yours.

[Dowly]

It might work in a situation where there is trust and respect between the teachers
and students. But in larger schools? What would prevent a student from flipping
out and attacking the teacher and taking his/her gun?

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

It might work in a situation where there is trust and respect between the teachers
and students. But in larger schools? What would prevent a student from flipping
out and attacking the teacher and taking his/her gun?

The fact that it is hidden? The fact that it would likely be locked up in a desk drawer?