Opinions, moon/cloud lighting SS's...

Armistead · 06-13-12, 12:16 AM

Trying to finish up my env. mod, but need some opinion. I honestly can't recall the other env. mods, but seems many you don't get a lot of moonlight cloud reflection, so been tweaking that. Here are two different looks, some I posted before.

This was my first try, OK, but maybe too much light and maybe a lil too blue of a look, plus the light reflection is a lil strong on the sky away from the moon and not sure I like the cloud pattern. Might look better to darken clouds a tad and kill some of the blue. Away from the moon clouds may be too white, this is more of a spread look with light covering more range away from moon.

Took a different approach, but here the light stays more around the moon. If the moon is on the horizon, it gives you nice visuals of ships, but the horizon darkens as the moon gets higher, as you can see by the last SS when moon is higher up, the horizon stays fairly dark. I think I like this better, maybe a lil less light....? I see a lil banding around the moon with no clouds in front of it, not sure if it's my crappy video card or not, but sure prolly tone down if I lighten it a tad..Yea, colors need a lil tweaking...

I can tweak either one, but need to pick one, so opinions please.

Mister_Spok · 06-13-12, 01:16 AM

The second ones are amazing!

Will I be able to use your mod if I have TMO2.5+RSRDC+OTC1.5?

Sailor Steve · 06-13-12, 04:11 AM

I'm just the opposite; I much prefer the first two. Even though it is lighter there is a cold stark feel that reminds me of what I felt like at times like that.

U570 · 06-13-12, 07:07 AM

I reckon both of them look fantastic. Maybe combine the two

. Brilliant for a first attempt

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stanger · 06-13-12, 07:25 AM

I like the first two too; we need to remember that its just a game, and its a game without some more advanced lighting effects, no HDR, no depth of field and such, so when in real life at night there are many factors in play - moon, stars, ours ships metal hull, our own eyes making "adjustments" - in game its limited to just those effects it can handle, and to monitors we use (TMO is lighter on LCDs, but its pitch black at night on my old CRT to the point when only ship splashes are visible). So, I adjusted night colors for my game myself, but would use your mod anyday.

Hylander_1314 · 06-13-12, 08:59 AM

The first 2 look like nights when it's colder out, and the ones with the S-Boat, look like humid summer nights. Too bad we can't have seasonal changes.

But both versions look fantastic! If you can make them interchangeable, I would use both, and just swap them out with JSGME. Use the clearer one for late autumn, to early spring, Like Oct. to March or April, and the other one the of months.

So that's my honest take on it. Make both available! Especially if they can be interchanged!

With the moonlight, it reminds me of nightfishing for channel catfish, and sturgeon in early spring and late autumn.

The rest remind me of those humid hazy summer nights where everything metal on the boat gets a coat of dew on it.

Rockin Robbins · 06-13-12, 09:02 AM

I like the stark color of the first set but the lighting level of the second.

Fish40 · 06-13-12, 09:58 AM

They all look good too me! Will this mod of yours be compatable with the supermods (RFB, TMO)? Will it change sensor settings or just the look of the environment? I may have to give it a try

SilentOtto · 06-13-12, 10:02 AM

I find all of them awesome... If I have to choose I think the first two are more like a real full moon night... the grayer second two I think would be great for no moon-lower light nights... But it's really hard to choose, they all look great!

Armistead · 06-13-12, 10:32 AM

I'll try to adjust colors with the first set, but yea both could be released.

06-13-12, 10:47 AM

They are nice enough to use as computer wallpaper.

Armistead · 06-13-12, 12:38 PM

Amuse me why I post SS to compare. This is with just TMO 2.5, no other env changes like the first two sets, those two mass changes day and night of many factors.

TMO no changes

More light

Following same as above, just knocked some of the blue out of the env.

Hylander_1314 · 06-13-12, 12:49 PM

I like the second one, because it shows more of the object, minus too much detail, as in more of a silhouette of the object like I have seen at night on the water, but the last one, even if not accurate, ........... just looks cool!

Hylander_1314 · 06-13-12, 12:51 PM

Oh, and please, release both! I will put them to good use! And your sunset colors too!

Fish40 · 06-13-12, 01:26 PM

Those look great! I guess it's safe to say it's compatable with TMO, but what about the fleeting few of us who still use RFB?

06-13-12, 12:16 AM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Opinions, moon/cloud lighting SS's... Trying to finish up my env. mod, but need some opinion. I honestly can't recall the other env. mods, but seems many you don't get a lot of moonlight cloud reflection, so been tweaking that. Here are two different looks, some I posted before. This was my first try, OK, but maybe too much light and maybe a lil too blue of a look, plus the light reflection is a lil strong on the sky away from the moon and not sure I like the cloud pattern. Might look better to darken clouds a tad and kill some of the blue. Away from the moon clouds may be too white, this is more of a spread look with light covering more range away from moon. Took a different approach, but here the light stays more around the moon. If the moon is on the horizon, it gives you nice visuals of ships, but the horizon darkens as the moon gets higher, as you can see by the last SS when moon is higher up, the horizon stays fairly dark. I think I like this better, maybe a lil less light....? I see a lil banding around the moon with no clouds in front of it, not sure if it's my crappy video card or not, but sure prolly tone down if I lighten it a tad..Yea, colors need a lil tweaking... I can tweak either one, but need to pick one, so opinions please. Last edited by Armistead; 06-13-12 at 12:32 AM.

06-13-12, 04:11 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm just the opposite; I much prefer the first two. Even though it is lighter there is a cold stark feel that reminds me of what I felt like at times like that. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-13-12, 07:07 AM	#4
U570 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 867 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	I reckon both of them look fantastic. Maybe combine the two . Brilliant for a first attempt . __________________ "Submariners are a bunch of intelligent misfits that somehow seem to get along, understand each other and work well together"- Anon

06-13-12, 08:59 AM	#6
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	The first 2 look like nights when it's colder out, and the ones with the S-Boat, look like humid summer nights. Too bad we can't have seasonal changes. But both versions look fantastic! If you can make them interchangeable, I would use both, and just swap them out with JSGME. Use the clearer one for late autumn, to early spring, Like Oct. to March or April, and the other one the of months. So that's my honest take on it. Make both available! Especially if they can be interchanged! With the moonlight, it reminds me of nightfishing for channel catfish, and sturgeon in early spring and late autumn. The rest remind me of those humid hazy summer nights where everything metal on the boat gets a coat of dew on it. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

06-13-12, 09:02 AM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I like the stark color of the first set but the lighting level of the second. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

06-13-12, 01:16 AM	#2
Mister_Spok Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ukraine Posts: 34 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	The second ones are amazing! Will I be able to use your mod if I have TMO2.5+RSRDC+OTC1.5?

06-13-12, 07:25 AM	#5
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	I like the first two too; we need to remember that its just a game, and its a game without some more advanced lighting effects, no HDR, no depth of field and such, so when in real life at night there are many factors in play - moon, stars, ours ships metal hull, our own eyes making "adjustments" - in game its limited to just those effects it can handle, and to monitors we use (TMO is lighter on LCDs, but its pitch black at night on my old CRT to the point when only ship splashes are visible). So, I adjusted night colors for my game myself, but would use your mod anyday.

06-13-12, 09:58 AM	#8
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	They all look good too me! Will this mod of yours be compatable with the supermods (RFB, TMO)? Will it change sensor settings or just the look of the environment? I may have to give it a try

06-13-12, 10:02 AM	#9
SilentOtto Engineer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BF79 Posts: 209 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	I find all of them awesome... If I have to choose I think the first two are more like a real full moon night... the grayer second two I think would be great for no moon-lower light nights... But it's really hard to choose, they all look great!

06-13-12, 10:32 AM	#10
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I'll try to adjust colors with the first set, but yea both could be released.

06-13-12, 10:47 AM	#11
icthird623 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	They are nice enough to use as computer wallpaper.

06-13-12, 12:38 PM	#12
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Amuse me why I post SS to compare. This is with just TMO 2.5, no other env changes like the first two sets, those two mass changes day and night of many factors. TMO no changes More light Following same as above, just knocked some of the blue out of the env. Last edited by Armistead; 07-24-12 at 02:03 AM.

06-13-12, 12:49 PM	#13
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	I like the second one, because it shows more of the object, minus too much detail, as in more of a silhouette of the object like I have seen at night on the water, but the last one, even if not accurate, ........... just looks cool! __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

06-13-12, 12:51 PM	#14
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Oh, and please, release both! I will put them to good use! And your sunset colors too! __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

06-13-12, 01:26 PM	#15
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Those look great! I guess it's safe to say it's compatable with TMO, but what about the fleeting few of us who still use RFB?