How to find Bismark in Horizon II Campain mode

[Adriano19701980]

Hello, guys!!

First, sorry for my poor English. Second, sorry again if this isn't the rigth place to post it.

Te matter is: I'd be grateful if someone could explain about how locating the Bismark in Horizon II, into Campain mode, in order to suport her and avoid her to be sunk (if this goal is possible, isn't it?)... I cannot find the battleship in spite of I place my U-boat in points where the radio reports she is (BE 6150, 6164,6141, 2955, etc.). I traslate this coordenates to normal latitude and long through a web site called "Kriegsmarine Quadrant Conversion" http://ubootwaffe.net/quadrant.cgi, because of the game doesn't use this kind of coordenates-map, as you know. Anyway, I never achieve to find her.... Maybe the radio doesn't work in real game (it's only to make the game fun), maybe the designers make the history be impossible to change? Can somebody help on it? Thanks in advance, Herr Kaloes!

[Kalleblom]

Moin Moin Kaleu,

I´m sorry, but i didn´t find the Bismark yet.

But great thx for the link, I´m search for an "Kriegsmarine Quadratkarte" but can´t find a goog one. Now i can use your link to convert the info in the radio messages.

When i find the ´Bismark´ i report.

See you

[Trevally.]

see here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=1600

[Adriano19701980]

Originally Posted by gap

Probably most of those reports are already reflected in game, since both messages and campaign shipping are based on historical records. Possibly some of them are not, and imho it would be worth rectifying these potential mismatches by either removing the corresponding reports or by adding the missing convoys.

I think you know where to look for those messages. Don't you?

Originally Posted by Kalleblom

Moin Moin Kaleu,

I´m sorry, but i didn´t find the Bismark yet.

But great thx for the link, I´m search for an "Kriegsmarine Quadratkarte" but can´t find a goog one. Now i can use your link to convert the info in the radio messages.

When i find the ´Bismark´ i report.

See you

Ok, thanks camrade, and you can see what other camrades replied throwing ligth upon the topic. Thank you very much indeed to everyone

[gap]

Originally Posted by Adriano19701980

... I cannot find the battleship in spite of I place my U-boat in points where the radio reports she is (BE 6150, 6164,6141, 2955, etc.).

Hi Adriano, I think you are confusing the meaning of those reports. They are just static messages, and have nothing to do with what is actually happening in game.

Anyway, questions like these make me wonder if Trevally did ever take account of those reports (especially the ones about convoys) for creating caimpagn shipping.

I know that matching every radio report with appropriate traffic settings/unit spawning would be an hard task, but for sure it would be an useful feature and a nice integration with TDW's radio messages engine.

Trevally, are you there?

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by gap

Trevally, are you there?

No

[Trevally.]

There are many historical convoys already in the campaign and a whole lot more added bu OHII

But the new campaign system for SH5 allows it to take random route from a to b.
This way it will change each time you play.

The Bismark route (and a few others) are nod locked and will always go the same route every time

[gap]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

No

Don't bluff with me man, I got you on my scope, and my eels are already after you

Originally Posted by Trevally.

There are many historical convoys already in the campaign and a whole lot more added bu OHII

I know it,
I was just asking if you made sure that the particular convoys reported through radio messages system are actually featured in game, since a mismatch would lead players to get confused, as it was the case with the Bismarck reports.

Originally Posted by Trevally.

But the new campaign system for SH5 allows it to take random route from a to b.
This way it will change each time you play.

Common convoy reports have this format:

1940.01.05:||Convoy SLF.15 Departed Freetown for Liverpool January 19, 1940.|Estimate 8 Vessels light escort.

As you can see, except for outbound and inbound ports, no mention is made about convoy routes.
The information provided is:

- name of the convoy
- departure time and place
- destination
- expected arrival date*
- number of merchant vessels*
- extent and type of escorts*

* information marked with asterisks is not always provided

I didn't check it personally, but I think that these reports are based on historical convoys.

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by gap

Common convoy reports have this format:

1940.01.05:||Convoy SLF.15 Departed Freetown for Liverpool January 19, 1940.|Estimate 8 Vessels light escort.

As you can see, except for outbound and inbound ports, no mention is made about convoy routes.
The information provided is:

- name of the convoy
- departure time and place
- destination
- expected arrival date*
- number of merchant vessels*
- extent and type of escorts*

* information marked with asterisks is not always provided

I didn't check it personally, but I think that these reports are based on historical convoys.

Yes - this could be done