Something That Still Bugs Me!

Fish40 · 07-13-12, 12:05 PM

If you are in the middle of a storm with rain and need to save the game, when you reload the save, it's still raining but your guys have no raingear. I know in SH3 all you needed to do was drag the crew below, and bring them topside again. It's more complicated in SH4 because when you ask for a weather report, it states "heavy overcast, poor visibility, NO PRECIP" That's where the problem comes in. The game says it's not raining, even though it clearly is. No rain= no raingear.

Hylander_1314 · 07-13-12, 05:26 PM

Well, it's nice and toasty on the Pacific, so they can hang around in tee shirts and shorts just fine.

donna52522 · 07-13-12, 08:14 PM

Sometimes I save in a storm with rain, come back and it's clear and calm. Once that happened as I was approaching a convoy, something came up and I had to save in fog, rain, heavy seas....came back and it was clear and calm, they blew me out of the water before I had a chance to dive.

Fish40 · 07-13-12, 08:52 PM

@Hylander, I guess that's one way to look at it

. @ Donna, I never had the weather do a 180 on me after a save. Always returned to the same weather state. Just that glitch which causes the game to think the rain stopped when it clearly has not.

Hylander_1314 · 07-13-12, 10:00 PM

Yeah, when they do that, i.e., hangin' in the rain without their gear, we pass out the bars of soap! Keeps the stench down below decks.

merc4ulfate · 07-14-12, 02:27 PM

I have had Donna's experience before ... middle of a monsoon, save it, come back later, clear as a bell and getting fired at.

Hylander_1314 · 07-14-12, 03:11 PM

Which is why I never save a game with known enemy ships with in 15 miles of my boat's position.

TorpX · 07-15-12, 02:01 AM

Post save-game surprises aside, the game weather leaves a lot to be desired. The weather just isn't what it should be. I'd like there to be real storms that actually compromise your boat, once in a while.

merc4ulfate · 07-18-12, 08:26 PM

Define compromised by weather.

Unless it is a huge Typhoon that is lasting in the same area your traversing for days, most storms bad enough to hurt the boat can be rode out by going deep and ahead slow. Even deep you can feel a few things but it is much safer under the water than on the surface.

TorpX · 07-19-12, 04:05 AM

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most storms bad enough to hurt the boat can be rode out by going deep

This is my point. In RL you would have to take action to protect your boat or minimize your difficulties; in the game you just cruise through it. It's no big deal.

By compromised I don't mean that you have storms snapping your boat in two, or anything like that; but rather being forced to submerge, endangering your crew, causing you to burn much extra fuel, having to alter course, or pass up attack opportunities. SH4 weather is mostly an optical illusion. It looks menacing, but has little influence on your operations.

Armistead · 07-19-12, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

This is my point. In RL you would have to take action to protect your boat or minimize your difficulties; in the game you just cruise through it. It's no big deal.

By compromised I don't mean that you have storms snapping your boat in two, or anything like that; but rather being forced to submerge, endangering your crew, causing you to burn much extra fuel, having to alter course, or pass up attack opportunities. SH4 weather is mostly an optical illusion. It looks menacing, but has little influence on your operations.

For the most part it is. I think you saw my larger waves and it did cause
some issues, no damage, but the boat slowed down about 5 kts, attacking with the scope was about impossible, you couldn't see over the waves, cept bits and pieces. Sometimes the boat would go under, submerge so to speak, but only due to going under, which also cut speed.

I gave up, because having typhoon waves under blue skies seems silly, if only some way to connect waves to storms, just can't be done...

TorpX · 07-20-12, 01:29 AM

It's too bad that it can't be integrated into the game properly. A 5 kt. loss is more that I've ever experienced in RFB. Realistic weather and storms would bring the game up a notch.

07-13-12, 12:05 PM	#1
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Something That Still Bugs Me! If you are in the middle of a storm with rain and need to save the game, when you reload the save, it's still raining but your guys have no raingear. I know in SH3 all you needed to do was drag the crew below, and bring them topside again. It's more complicated in SH4 because when you ask for a weather report, it states "heavy overcast, poor visibility, NO PRECIP" That's where the problem comes in. The game says it's not raining, even though it clearly is. No rain= no raingear.

07-13-12, 05:26 PM	#2
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Well, it's nice and toasty on the Pacific, so they can hang around in tee shirts and shorts just fine. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

07-13-12, 08:14 PM	#3
donna52522 Lady Mariner Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 544 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	Sometimes I save in a storm with rain, come back and it's clear and calm. Once that happened as I was approaching a convoy, something came up and I had to save in fog, rain, heavy seas....came back and it was clear and calm, they blew me out of the water before I had a chance to dive. __________________

07-13-12, 08:52 PM	#4
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	@Hylander, I guess that's one way to look at it. @ Donna, I never had the weather do a 180 on me after a save. Always returned to the same weather state. Just that glitch which causes the game to think the rain stopped when it clearly has not.

07-13-12, 10:00 PM	#5
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Yeah, when they do that, i.e., hangin' in the rain without their gear, we pass out the bars of soap! Keeps the stench down below decks. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

07-14-12, 02:27 PM	#6
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I have had Donna's experience before ... middle of a monsoon, save it, come back later, clear as a bell and getting fired at.

07-14-12, 03:11 PM	#7
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Which is why I never save a game with known enemy ships with in 15 miles of my boat's position. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

07-15-12, 02:01 AM	#8
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Post save-game surprises aside, the game weather leaves a lot to be desired. The weather just isn't what it should be. I'd like there to be real storms that actually compromise your boat, once in a while.

07-18-12, 08:26 PM	#9
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Define compromised by weather. Unless it is a huge Typhoon that is lasting in the same area your traversing for days, most storms bad enough to hurt the boat can be rode out by going deep and ahead slow. Even deep you can feel a few things but it is much safer under the water than on the surface.

07-20-12, 01:29 AM	#12
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	It's too bad that it can't be integrated into the game properly. A 5 kt. loss is more that I've ever experienced in RFB. Realistic weather and storms would bring the game up a notch.