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Old 07-18-12, 04:12 PM   #1
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Default HMS Conqueror Report of Proceedings - Op Corporate

Available at MoD: http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Ab...ardsOfInquiry/

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PS: Some parts are missing, just the narrative of events were published, but it is worth a read!
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Old 07-18-12, 04:17 PM   #2
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One helluva lot of links/information there...could you give a brief appraisal of your thoughts/interpretation?
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Old 07-18-12, 04:31 PM   #3
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Well, this is a very good read for anyone interested in modern submarine operations on littoral waters.

Besides the sinking of ARA General Belgrano, HMS Conqueror had a eventful war patrol, with encounters with enemy aircraft, unknown submarine contacts, surveillance to airports in the mainland and so on.

This is a former secret document (so secret that, back in the `80s, British MP were forbidden to access it!) and, because it was not written to be public, is an honest document showing the pros and cons about naval war on a modern nuclear boat.

It is hard to read to the general public. But someone with background in boats (of any nation) or at least with knowledge of military naval sims (aka Dangerous Waters) will find it readable.

Op Corporate was "no picnic" (I am borrowing words here) for Royal Navy boats, due to the enviroment, failure of comms, mechanical problems, Argentine aircraft and other reasons. The story in this document is not in any book (the one that came close is Sink the Belgrano! but lacks the part of Conqueror operating inside Gulf San Matías and very near mainland)

Modern submarine warfare at most!
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Fantastic, absolutely fantastic. Thank you very much for finding this Marcantilan. Very interesting reading indeed.
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Old 07-19-12, 03:40 AM   #5
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Well, this is a very good read for anyone interested in modern submarine operations on littoral waters.

Besides the sinking of ARA General Belgrano, HMS Conqueror had a eventful war patrol, with encounters with enemy aircraft, unknown submarine contacts, surveillance to airports in the mainland and so on.

This is a former secret document (so secret that, back in the `80s, British MP were forbidden to access it!) and, because it was not written to be public, is an honest document showing the pros and cons about naval war on a modern nuclear boat.

It is hard to read to the general public. But someone with background in boats (of any nation) or at least with knowledge of military naval sims (aka Dangerous Waters) will find it readable.

Op Corporate was "no picnic" (I am borrowing words here) for Royal Navy boats, due to the enviroment, failure of comms, mechanical problems, Argentine aircraft and other reasons. The story in this document is not in any book (the one that came close is Sink the Belgrano! but lacks the part of Conqueror operating inside Gulf San Matías and very near mainland)

Modern submarine warfare at most!
You've certainly gained my interest...I'll bookmark and read after my weekends work is done.

Many thanks for your efforts
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Nice find Marcantilian! Sounds well worth a read.
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Old 07-19-12, 08:01 AM   #7
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I just finished Rossiter's book 'Sink The Belgrano' two days ago, this is a lovely bit of continuity for me.

Thanks a lot.
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