model is one the wrong direction

Marka Ragnos · 06-28-12, 09:48 AM

Hi all,

i hope you modders out there, can help me with this.

I imported a model with silent editor and no matter what i do in the game the model is standing vertical or horizontal but in the wrong direction.

So the propellers are suddenly the front of the ship, am i importing it wrong?
Or can i change this setting in silent editor somewhere?

Thanks in advance

stanger · 06-28-12, 11:11 AM

Maybe this will help you:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...56&postcount=1

I did notice that x in sh4 is x in 3dsMax, y in sh4 is z in 3dsmax and z in sh4 is y in 3dsmax. In other 3d modeling software its even different, for example sh4 model imported to Blender is displayed on z axis (or y or whatever vertical\north-south one is called in Blender - confusing).

Marka Ragnos · 06-28-12, 11:33 AM

So changing the sub's direction needs to be done in the 3D program it was designed with?

No way i can change these values in the silent editor?

Thanks for the replies!

06-28-12, 12:57 PM

Have you tried using the node rotation tool? If astern is ahead, try rotating the main node 180º in the Y axis

Marka Ragnos · 06-28-12, 01:23 PM

i have tried that if i change the Y value to 180 nothing changes.
If i change any of the other values the sub starts bouncing up and down

Hylander_1314 · 06-28-12, 01:45 PM

Still trying to get used to Wing3D here. Used to GMax, and the Y and Z Aixs' are switched so it still throws me off from what I'm used to.

Maybe try changing the axis in 3dsmax is what I would do.

stanger · 06-28-12, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marka Ragnos

So changing the sub's direction needs to be done in the 3D program it was designed with?

No way i can change these values in the silent editor?

Thanks for the replies!

It seems so. In 3dsmax you can rotate it on z axis 180 deg.
This how it should look like:

"front view":

general:

I though it would help to use face winding setting when importing to s3d, but it doesnt work like I thought it would (still learning). Rotating in s3d (on y axis) works, but Im not sure those values are in degrees...?

06-29-12, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanger

I though it would help to use face winding setting when importing to s3d, but it doesnt work like I thought it would (still learning). Rotating in s3d (on y axis) works, but Im not sure those values are in degrees...?

By default is in radians, but it can be changed to degrees in the options section.

stanger · 06-29-12, 04:41 AM

Thanks JapLance! So, I loaded stock sub model in s3d and rotated it 180 on y axis. Works. And if imported model is facing wrong direction, all there has to be done is rotate it in s3d, but will the game accept such model, or will it behave normally in game, I don't know, but should be OK.

Marka Ragnos · 06-29-12, 07:36 AM

It had to be adjusted in 3dsmax, thanks all for the replies

06-28-12, 09:48 AM	#1
Marka Ragnos Weps Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 364 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	model is one the wrong direction Hi all, i hope you modders out there, can help me with this. I imported a model with silent editor and no matter what i do in the game the model is standing vertical or horizontal but in the wrong direction. So the propellers are suddenly the front of the ship, am i importing it wrong? Or can i change this setting in silent editor somewhere? Thanks in advance __________________

06-28-12, 11:33 AM	#3
Marka Ragnos Weps Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 364 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	So changing the sub's direction needs to be done in the 3D program it was designed with? No way i can change these values in the silent editor? Thanks for the replies! __________________

06-28-12, 01:23 PM	#5
Marka Ragnos Weps Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 364 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	i have tried that if i change the Y value to 180 nothing changes. If i change any of the other values the sub starts bouncing up and down __________________

06-28-12, 01:45 PM	#6
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Still trying to get used to Wing3D here. Used to GMax, and the Y and Z Aixs' are switched so it still throws me off from what I'm used to. Maybe try changing the axis in 3dsmax is what I would do. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

06-29-12, 07:36 AM	#10
Marka Ragnos Weps Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 364 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	It had to be adjusted in 3dsmax, thanks all for the replies __________________

06-28-12, 11:11 AM	#2
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Maybe this will help you: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...56&postcount=1 I did notice that x in sh4 is x in 3dsMax, y in sh4 is z in 3dsmax and z in sh4 is y in 3dsmax. In other 3d modeling software its even different, for example sh4 model imported to Blender is displayed on z axis (or y or whatever vertical\north-south one is called in Blender - confusing).

06-28-12, 12:57 PM	#4
JapLance Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Have you tried using the node rotation tool? If astern is ahead, try rotating the main node 180º in the Y axis

06-29-12, 04:41 AM	#9
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Thanks JapLance! So, I loaded stock sub model in s3d and rotated it 180 on y axis. Works. And if imported model is facing wrong direction, all there has to be done is rotate it in s3d, but will the game accept such model, or will it behave normally in game, I don't know, but should be OK.