Australian Defence Spending to be cut again

TarJak · 05-03-12, 05:43 AM

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...503-1y0e9.html

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/p...-1226345614167

The statement that infuriates me is that front line troops would not be cut and that they would still get all the kit they need. Not sure how if we don't spend any money on it.

Sooner we get rid if Dullard and Swanker the better.

BossMark · 05-03-12, 06:34 AM

Hey TarJak soon you will be like us defenceless, with no navy, air force or army

05-03-12, 06:45 AM

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The statement that infuriates me is that front line troops would not be cut and that they would still get all the kit they need. Not sure how if we don't spend any money on it

Well they can't exactly give them the lightnings when they don't look like being ready until another two defence reviews have been published(if even then).
Think of the savings, 1.5 billion for some more planes now compared to 16 billion++++ on some planes that may or may not arrive a long time from now and may or may not even work

TarJak · 05-03-12, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well they can't exactly give them the lightnings when they don't look like being ready until another two defence reviews have been published(if even then).
Think of the savings, 1.5 billion for some more planes now compared to 16 billion++++ on some planes that may or may not arrive a long time from now and may or may not even work

I don't deny there is some sense in the review, but not all of it makes sense:
e.g.; $215m to study whether we build submarines locally or buy them from elsewhere.

Herr-Berbunch · 05-03-12, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

Hey TarJak soon you will be like us defenceless, with no navy, air force or army

We could share? I mean, it's not like we're on opposite sides of the world...

TarJak · 05-03-12, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

Hey TarJak soon you will be like us defenceless, with no navy, air force or army

I think we are already there. Have been for years despite the spending. It's not like we actually get anything for the money anyway. Apart from the Bushmaster. That thing is pretty good.

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We could share? I mean, it's not like we're on opposite sides of the world...

You can have our Sea Knight choppers. Oh wait they don't work, but at least they've never been used.

Herr-Berbunch · 05-03-12, 07:17 AM

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You can have our Sea Knight choppers. Oh wait they don't work, but at least they've never been used.

I think maybe a part-ex for some Apaches we've got in storage.

Jimbuna · 05-03-12, 07:31 AM

Looks like our past has eventually caught up with you grant

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e.g.; $215m to study whether we build submarines locally or buy them from elsewhere

Certainly don't see the need for that expenditure...you can't crew the couple of Collins that are working periodically

TarJak · 05-03-12, 08:08 AM

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Looks like our past has eventually caught up with you grant

Certainly don't see the need for that expenditure...you can't crew the couple of Collins that are working periodically

Too bloody true. I'd rather they paid the sailors more or used it for recruiting rather than working out where to build the next load of crap they are buying.

This governments focus on returning our budget to surplus is going to cripple some of our ability to actually do anything useful and not just in the military. Can't wait to hear what horrors they've got in store for the budget next week.

05-03-12, 08:28 AM

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e.g.; $215m to study whether we build submarines locally or buy them from elsewhere.

Thats government.

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This governments focus on returning our budget to surplus is going to cripple some of our ability to actually do anything useful and not just in the military.

Whats funny there is that the government took back money from the military because it managed to maintain a surplus from its budget allocation.

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You can have our Sea Knight choppers. Oh wait they don't work, but at least they've never been used.

I think Irelands new SAR helicopters are till sitting idle in Yeovil because the government can't decide which dept. should pick up the bill

kiwi_2005 · 05-03-12, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

Hey TarJak soon you will be like us defenceless, with no navy, air force or army

Same can be said about NZ, we got an army, we got a navy if having 3 frigates count

and we had an airforce once

Our only force left is the Haka warrior shout - well it worked during ww2 against the germans... kind of

Herr-Berbunch · 05-03-12, 09:04 AM

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I think Irelands new SAR helicopters are till sitting idle in Yeovil because the government can't decide which dept. should pick up the bill

That'd be the dept. that doesn't have gold taps in the bathrooms.

Or that may just be the media lying that just about everyone in Ireland renovated their houses and installed luxurious fittings throughout.

I hope AW are charging storage fees, but I thought you'd bought into the idea of privatising SAR using CHC? Even we turned that down, for now.

Herr-Berbunch · 05-03-12, 09:13 AM

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Same can be said about NZ . . . and we had an airforce once

Don't worry, there is a little company in NZ that I have the greatest respect and admiration for and they're rebuilding the entire RNZAF.

http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/

Vids available on the Tube.

I found out about them from watching this on channel 5 (maybe UK-limited).

They don't just replicate the aircraft either -

kiwi_2005 · 05-03-12, 09:46 AM

^ Wow! Thanks for that, I didn't even know about them.

05-03-12, 11:28 AM

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That'd be the dept. that doesn't have gold taps in the bathrooms.

It was five difernet departments, because of course SAR helicopters ain't really for search and rescue

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Or that may just be the media lying that just about everyone in Ireland renovated their houses and installed luxurious fittings throughout.

Its not far off, you wouldn't believe some of the monstrosities I worked on when people were going crazy on credit. Its funny when you see the idiots now with their worthless piles of junk.

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I hope AW are charging storage fees, but I thought you'd bought into the idea of privatising SAR using CHC? Even we turned that down, for now.

I don't know what the outcome was, it dragged on for years, but yes the service is using hired helicopters now.
I suppose its better to hire than face a repeat of what they done with the Dauphins, as they sold them for peanuts because errrr...they were due a major servicing and servicing costs money and well there are these people who are really really happy to get a helicopter at that sort of price so sell 'em

Thank god we have a tiny military, who knows how much more money the muppets in government could waste if it was bigger.

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