GWX working slow.. Anything i can do?

jimmyjam25 · 03-17-12, 10:25 PM

Normal SH3 worked fine on my computer but the grey wolves is a bit slow and is wrecking gameplay. Whats the 'particle density' setting? Or is it something to do with the way I installed it. Read somewhere about installing into a different place on computer or something?

jimmyjam25 · 03-18-12, 01:18 AM

Oh and my computer is running Vista

matti95 · 03-18-12, 04:09 AM

http://www.thegreywolves.com/support/

Try the step by step instructions for vista users.

Luno · 03-18-12, 04:58 AM

Particles are what make up bow-waves and smoke. The more there are in a scene, the harder your graphics card has to work to render them.

Lowering the particle density will help somewhat.

The biggest frame-rate killer in SH3 is the extreme level of polygons and lack of optimization for that. Most games like Il-2 have LOD (level-of-detail) models with fewer polygons the further away that object is, until it's finally just a single-pixel dot. In SH3, this is not the case at all. This is especially problematic in ports which have buildings that are just too detailed for their distance.

The point is, GWX adds lots of objects (and therefore, polygons) to harbors, and I think it also adds objects with finer detail (again, more polygons).

Your OS is the not the problem usually. SHIII should run fine on Vista. The problem is your hardware. An integrated laptop graphics chip-set isn't going to cut it; you need a dedicated card, and a decent one at that.

However, you can probably boost performance a bit by cleaning up things that sap memory like browser history, running a periodic hard drive defragmentation to shorten load times, and even simply cleaning dust out of the fan. This last one had a huge effect on my laptop: I pulled out a 1/2 cm thick pad of compressed dust...crashes stopped and frame-rates improved dramatically.

But, I still can't run GWX. I bought a computer for my mom which runs it beautifully, but she only uses it to play facebook games, lol. I owe myself a new system I think.

Gargamel · 03-18-12, 05:32 AM

What are your specs?

Mittelwaechter · 03-18-12, 05:35 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost

butch100 · 03-18-12, 08:00 AM

I'm running an E8400@ 3.6Ghz, 4 gig RAM, ATI 4380 card with 512Kram and GWX still will get choppy in a heavy convoy scene with a lot of explosions FPS drops to 10-15, sucks 'cause I love GWX too..

jimmyjam25 · 03-24-12, 07:28 AM

Well I deleted a heap of stuff and now its working fairly well. By the way I am loving Grey Wolves!

Gargamel · 03-24-12, 08:57 AM

Deleted from the hard drive?

If that's what solved it, you might want a Bigger drive. if you start to run out of room, the virtual ram gets smaller. Try a defrag too.

jimmyjam25 · 03-25-12, 06:46 AM

Yeah, off the hard drive. Ill get around to a defrag some day...

Gargamel · 03-25-12, 09:37 AM

Why wait? If that's the problem, fix it. Just let it run overnight.

jimmyjam25 · 03-26-12, 04:19 AM

Yeah i'll do it tonight

Herr-Berbunch · 03-26-12, 05:12 AM

Do not use the Micro$oft defrag, instead download and use defraggler, it's free from Piriform and Filehippo.co and is leaps and bounds better than the default effort. With defraggler you can even just defrag one file or folder.

Whilst you're there get ccleaner too.

03-17-12, 10:25 PM	#1
jimmyjam25 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	GWX working slow.. Anything i can do? Normal SH3 worked fine on my computer but the grey wolves is a bit slow and is wrecking gameplay. Whats the 'particle density' setting? Or is it something to do with the way I installed it. Read somewhere about installing into a different place on computer or something?

03-18-12, 04:58 AM	#4
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Particles are what make up bow-waves and smoke. The more there are in a scene, the harder your graphics card has to work to render them. Lowering the particle density will help somewhat. The biggest frame-rate killer in SH3 is the extreme level of polygons and lack of optimization for that. Most games like Il-2 have LOD (level-of-detail) models with fewer polygons the further away that object is, until it's finally just a single-pixel dot. In SH3, this is not the case at all. This is especially problematic in ports which have buildings that are just too detailed for their distance. The point is, GWX adds lots of objects (and therefore, polygons) to harbors, and I think it also adds objects with finer detail (again, more polygons). Your OS is the not the problem usually. SHIII should run fine on Vista. The problem is your hardware. An integrated laptop graphics chip-set isn't going to cut it; you need a dedicated card, and a decent one at that. However, you can probably boost performance a bit by cleaning up things that sap memory like browser history, running a periodic hard drive defragmentation to shorten load times, and even simply cleaning dust out of the fan. This last one had a huge effect on my laptop: I pulled out a 1/2 cm thick pad of compressed dust...crashes stopped and frame-rates improved dramatically. But, I still can't run GWX. I bought a computer for my mom which runs it beautifully, but she only uses it to play facebook games, lol. I owe myself a new system I think. __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

03-18-12, 05:32 AM	#5
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	What are your specs? __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

03-18-12, 05:35 AM	#6
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03-24-12, 08:57 AM	#9
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Deleted from the hard drive? If that's what solved it, you might want a Bigger drive. if you start to run out of room, the virtual ram gets smaller. Try a defrag too. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

03-18-12, 01:18 AM	#2
jimmyjam25 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Oh and my computer is running Vista

03-18-12, 04:09 AM	#3
matti95 Loader Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Finland Posts: 86 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	http://www.thegreywolves.com/support/ Try the step by step instructions for vista users.

03-18-12, 08:00 AM	#7
butch100 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'm running an E8400@ 3.6Ghz, 4 gig RAM, ATI 4380 card with 512Kram and GWX still will get choppy in a heavy convoy scene with a lot of explosions FPS drops to 10-15, sucks 'cause I love GWX too..

03-24-12, 07:28 AM	#8
jimmyjam25 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Well I deleted a heap of stuff and now its working fairly well. By the way I am loving Grey Wolves!

03-25-12, 06:46 AM	#10
jimmyjam25 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Yeah, off the hard drive. Ill get around to a defrag some day...

03-25-12, 09:37 AM	#11
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Why wait? If that's the problem, fix it. Just let it run overnight. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

03-26-12, 04:19 AM	#12
jimmyjam25 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Yeah i'll do it tonight

03-26-12, 05:12 AM	#13
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Do not use the Micro$oft defrag, instead download and use defraggler, it's free from Piriform and Filehippo.co and is leaps and bounds better than the default effort. With defraggler you can even just defrag one file or folder. Whilst you're there get ccleaner too. __________________