TMO 2.5 - Did this mod elimnate deck guns from GAR and Tambor?

torpedobait · 02-15-12, 06:40 PM

After installing TMO 2.5 + RSRD I find the deck guns are missing from both GAR and TAMBOR class boats (haven't tried any others - I'm in a Career mode. Has anyone else encountered this or might I have a "funny" install? Everything else seems normal.

Hylander_1314 · 02-15-12, 10:14 PM

Did you add the aft deckgun mod included? I think those boats only had them mounted aft.

torpedobait · 02-16-12, 09:29 PM

Have not added that mod yet. The thing that makes me believe it is related to the TMO 2.5 upgrade is that the deck gun crew member slots are also missing. Maybe they go hand-in-glove, so to speak, but it still seems strange, because I'm sure they were there in TMO 2.4. I'm progressing far enough into the war (late 1942) that it won't make much difference, because the enemy ships are getting deck guns, and I know better than to take those on.

But still, it would be nice to know if there is a glitch or if it was done purposely. Thanks, and good hunting all!

EricW · 02-16-12, 11:33 PM

The short version......its a glitch in the game.

Search the forum and you will find a pile of threads regarding this very problem.

I just run TMO with the aft deck guns option enabled all the time and it's never an issue.......

Stealhead · 02-19-12, 12:15 AM

I think it might be a glitch of a different kind.I notice that on Tambor/Gars in TMO 2.5 they have a rear deck gun most likely to make the fitting of a 5/51 deck gun accurate(only the rear mount was built to accept the gun) even if you do not have the optional rear deck gun running. I think that the fact that TMO defaults fore deck guns but that Tambors/Gars are defaulting to rear mounts might be causing a glitch with the Tambor/Gars that did not occur in older versions of TMO.

denny927 · 02-19-12, 01:24 AM

sorry for post this little OT here, but where i can find tmo 2.5, as far as i know i have only tmo 2.2....

but after reading this problem, i believe is better my 2.2

gAiNiAc · 02-19-12, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny927

sorry for post this little OT here, but where i can find tmo 2.5, as far as i know i have only tmo 2.2....

but after reading this problem, i believe is better my 2.2

Look in the TMO thread. You'll find 2.5.

It works fine. Just use the patch, as per the readme which seems to not be read by many.

Hylander_1314 · 02-19-12, 07:12 AM

The trouble with the game itself, is if you try to change from the aft gun and move it forward of the conning tower, or the opposite, from the front to the back.

While glancing over the TMO pdf file I think it has something in there about the Gar and Tambor boats having their guns on the aft deck, so you may have to add the aft deckgun mod from the TMO 2.5 download.

torpedobait · 02-19-12, 09:07 AM

Thanks for the input, Captains. I think I can live with it the way it is, hope for a deck gun on my next upgrade, and that it comes before the merchants can blow me out of the water!

torpedobait · 02-25-12, 10:31 AM

I finally decided I really wanted a deck gun, so I deleted my campaign, including the saved files, and reloaded all mods EXCEPT TMO 2.5, thinking that it was the cause of the missing deck guns.

Not so! I started a new campaign with a Narwhal class sub (USS Narwhal) only to find that it has no deck gun or crew complement spaces for same.

I have diligently searched the Downloads (new and old) for anthing related to a rear deck gun mod as discussed above, but cannot find one.

Can anyone point me to the download, and/or a solution to the missing gun and crew slots?

Thanks.

TorpX · 02-25-12, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torpedobait

I finally decided I really wanted a deck gun, so I deleted my campaign, including the saved files, and reloaded all mods EXCEPT TMO 2.5, thinking that it was the cause of the missing deck guns.

Not so! I started a new campaign with a Narwhal class sub (USS Narwhal) only to find that it has no deck gun or crew complement spaces for same.

I have diligently searched the Downloads (new and old) for anthing related to a rear deck gun mod as discussed above, but cannot find one.

Can anyone point me to the download, and/or a solution to the missing gun and crew slots?

Thanks.

I would try peeling off your mods one by one until the deck guns come back. (I know, that is about as much fun as doing your taxes.) If you don't get your guns back, you are probably looking at a reinstall.

Or......

Maybe someone more computer savy, has a better idea.

02-15-12, 06:40 PM	#1
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,073 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	TMO 2.5 - Did this mod elimnate deck guns from GAR and Tambor? After installing TMO 2.5 + RSRD I find the deck guns are missing from both GAR and TAMBOR class boats (haven't tried any others - I'm in a Career mode. Has anyone else encountered this or might I have a "funny" install? Everything else seems normal. __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All

02-15-12, 10:14 PM	#2
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Did you add the aft deckgun mod included? I think those boats only had them mounted aft. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

02-16-12, 09:29 PM	#3
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,073 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	Have not added that mod yet. The thing that makes me believe it is related to the TMO 2.5 upgrade is that the deck gun crew member slots are also missing. Maybe they go hand-in-glove, so to speak, but it still seems strange, because I'm sure they were there in TMO 2.4. I'm progressing far enough into the war (late 1942) that it won't make much difference, because the enemy ships are getting deck guns, and I know better than to take those on. But still, it would be nice to know if there is a glitch or if it was done purposely. Thanks, and good hunting all! __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All

02-19-12, 07:12 AM	#8
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	The trouble with the game itself, is if you try to change from the aft gun and move it forward of the conning tower, or the opposite, from the front to the back. While glancing over the TMO pdf file I think it has something in there about the Gar and Tambor boats having their guns on the aft deck, so you may have to add the aft deckgun mod from the TMO 2.5 download. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

02-19-12, 09:07 AM	#9
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,073 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	Thanks! Thanks for the input, Captains. I think I can live with it the way it is, hope for a deck gun on my next upgrade, and that it comes before the merchants can blow me out of the water! __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All

02-16-12, 11:33 PM	#4
EricW Bosun Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 64 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	The short version......its a glitch in the game. Search the forum and you will find a pile of threads regarding this very problem. I just run TMO with the aft deck guns option enabled all the time and it's never an issue.......

02-19-12, 12:15 AM	#5
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I think it might be a glitch of a different kind.I notice that on Tambor/Gars in TMO 2.5 they have a rear deck gun most likely to make the fitting of a 5/51 deck gun accurate(only the rear mount was built to accept the gun) even if you do not have the optional rear deck gun running. I think that the fact that TMO defaults fore deck guns but that Tambors/Gars are defaulting to rear mounts might be causing a glitch with the Tambor/Gars that did not occur in older versions of TMO.

02-19-12, 01:24 AM	#6
denny927 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mexico City Posts: 132 Downloads: 213 Uploads: 0	sorry for post this little OT here, but where i can find tmo 2.5, as far as i know i have only tmo 2.2.... but after reading this problem, i believe is better my 2.2

02-25-12, 10:31 AM	#10
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,073 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	Missing Deck Gun and Crew still an Issue! I finally decided I really wanted a deck gun, so I deleted my campaign, including the saved files, and reloaded all mods EXCEPT TMO 2.5, thinking that it was the cause of the missing deck guns. Not so! I started a new campaign with a Narwhal class sub (USS Narwhal) only to find that it has no deck gun or crew complement spaces for same. I have diligently searched the Downloads (new and old) for anthing related to a rear deck gun mod as discussed above, but cannot find one. Can anyone point me to the download, and/or a solution to the missing gun and crew slots? Thanks. __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All