Destroyer ignores my attack

gambla · 02-10-12, 11:08 AM

Hi Kaleuns,

it's early in the war, 1939. I've attacked a convoy and two ships were in flames. But this destroyer didn't show any sign of any reaction at all ? He just moved on. Is this one of the original bugs or is IRAI failing ? Maybe i hit a random detroyer awareness of 0 % ?

thanks guys

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Maki4444 · 02-10-12, 12:43 PM

It's ok because I believe that you are patroling along the British eastern coast. Ant it's the beginning of the war. Destroyers then we're mostly caught by surprise bcause so early in the war they didn't really know that the Germans would launcha u boat campaign, secondly a lot of the time they were convinced that a ship struck a runaway mine. So the IRAI is good, wait until 1942 Then you'll see some destroyer action

misha1967 · 02-10-12, 01:42 PM

What Maki said.

I had the same reaction when I ran into a convoy of two large steamers in September of 1939 along the British coast, sank one of them and then watched dumbfoundedly as its three escorts steamed on regardless.

Just wait. Soon enough you're going to find yourself wishing they'd pay less attention to you!

Hinrich Schwab · 02-10-12, 01:44 PM

Before the Battle of Britain began (roughly), Destroyer tactics and performance were somewhat underwhelming. I haven't tinkered with IRAI yet, but relating previous SH games, destroyers start stepping up their game around the end of 1941. During the early war, expect a lack of consistency. I remember getting caught out by a pair of V&Ws near the Straits of Dover (you know...the Deathtrap

) I was on the surface, so they took potshots at me with their guns in the dark. My conning tower got dinged pretty good, but nothing critical. I crash dove, of course, and one of the two destroyers trundled over to my last position and banged once or twice with ASDIC. I was already long gone before he made it over there.

Enjoy the laziness while you can. Once the Tommies get their act together, they are on you like angry fans at a football riot.

gambla · 02-10-12, 02:26 PM

Thanks guys,

yes, it's the british eastcoast and it's early in the war, so it's for sure still easy to deal with them. I just wish that the escorts would move to the sinking ships, using their search lights, pick up survivors, or just monitoring the events. Just moving on and ignoring everything is a bit strange.

But some weeks earlier, after leaving Scapa Flow, two bigger destroyers (two gun turrets on bow) gave me the first hard time. Must have been veterans of WW I.

cheers,
gam

Catfish · 02-11-12, 11:29 AM

Really, a dark gray U-boat in the night - what do you think a destroyer would see under such circumstances ?

There are hundreds of reports telling they were almost running alongside destroyers at less than 100 meters, and were NOT seen, in the night.

ANd also destroyers and DEs also had no Radar, most not until 1943 (some not even then) - apart from Radar being useless under 1000 meters. So seeing a destroyer most U-boats just changed the course a bit, and were never seen.

If this is in the sim, it is good, because it is real.

gambla · 02-11-12, 12:14 PM

You got me wrong, even if my made it clear. It's not the point that i would expect the DDs hunting my boat. Talking about realism, i don't think the sim is "good" here. If there were massive explosions and large fires on one of the convoy ships, the DDs would move to the sinking ships, using their search lights, pick up survivors, or just monitoring the events. I mentioned that already.

02-10-12, 11:08 AM	#1
gambla Gunner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 97 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Destroyer ignores my attack Hi Kaleuns, it's early in the war, 1939. I've attacked a convoy and two ships were in flames. But this destroyer didn't show any sign of any reaction at all ? He just moved on. Is this one of the original bugs or is IRAI failing ? Maybe i hit a random detroyer awareness of 0 % ? thanks guys Uploaded with ImageShack.us __________________ _________________________________________ Mods: The Wolves of Steel 2.0.0 - 2.0.9d Update

02-10-12, 01:42 PM	#3
misha1967 Commander Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 470 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	What Maki said. I had the same reaction when I ran into a convoy of two large steamers in September of 1939 along the British coast, sank one of them and then watched dumbfoundedly as its three escorts steamed on regardless. Just wait. Soon enough you're going to find yourself wishing they'd pay less attention to you! __________________ Ansonsten, Herr Lutter, ist alles in Butter Liqui-cooled Intel i2550K @ 4.2 GHz, 8 Gb RAM, GTX 970 GPU

02-10-12, 02:26 PM	#5
gambla Gunner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 97 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys, yes, it's the british eastcoast and it's early in the war, so it's for sure still easy to deal with them. I just wish that the escorts would move to the sinking ships, using their search lights, pick up survivors, or just monitoring the events. Just moving on and ignoring everything is a bit strange. But some weeks earlier, after leaving Scapa Flow, two bigger destroyers (two gun turrets on bow) gave me the first hard time. Must have been veterans of WW I. cheers, gam __________________ _________________________________________ Mods: The Wolves of Steel 2.0.0 - 2.0.9d Update

02-11-12, 12:14 PM	#7
gambla Gunner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 97 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	You got me wrong, even if my made it clear. It's not the point that i would expect the DDs hunting my boat. Talking about realism, i don't think the sim is "good" here. If there were massive explosions and large fires on one of the convoy ships, the DDs would move to the sinking ships, using their search lights, pick up survivors, or just monitoring the events. I mentioned that already. __________________ _________________________________________ Mods: The Wolves of Steel 2.0.0 - 2.0.9d Update

02-10-12, 12:43 PM	#2
Maki4444 Sparky Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Croatia Posts: 152 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	It's ok because I believe that you are patroling along the British eastern coast. Ant it's the beginning of the war. Destroyers then we're mostly caught by surprise bcause so early in the war they didn't really know that the Germans would launcha u boat campaign, secondly a lot of the time they were convinced that a ship struck a runaway mine. So the IRAI is good, wait until 1942 Then you'll see some destroyer action

02-10-12, 01:44 PM	#4
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Before the Battle of Britain began (roughly), Destroyer tactics and performance were somewhat underwhelming. I haven't tinkered with IRAI yet, but relating previous SH games, destroyers start stepping up their game around the end of 1941. During the early war, expect a lack of consistency. I remember getting caught out by a pair of V&Ws near the Straits of Dover (you know...the Deathtrap ) I was on the surface, so they took potshots at me with their guns in the dark. My conning tower got dinged pretty good, but nothing critical. I crash dove, of course, and one of the two destroyers trundled over to my last position and banged once or twice with ASDIC. I was already long gone before he made it over there. Enjoy the laziness while you can. Once the Tommies get their act together, they are on you like angry fans at a football riot.

02-11-12, 11:29 AM	#6
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Really, a dark gray U-boat in the night - what do you think a destroyer would see under such circumstances ? There are hundreds of reports telling they were almost running alongside destroyers at less than 100 meters, and were NOT seen, in the night. ANd also destroyers and DEs also had no Radar, most not until 1943 (some not even then) - apart from Radar being useless under 1000 meters. So seeing a destroyer most U-boats just changed the course a bit, and were never seen. If this is in the sim, it is good, because it is real.