The truth about Newt Gingrich

[Bubblehead1980]

I am in Florida until this evening visiting family, just saw a Romney superpac add against Gingrich telling lies.So lets correct the record on Gingrich:

84 ALLEGED ethics violations were filed against Gingrich(all by Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi) 83 were dropped and one was upheld, Newt Paid 300k fine for alleged misleading statements.Well as a law student, I can attest that people unintentionally perjure themselves at times by being uninformed or not remembering things exactly as they once did, thus why prosecutions for perjury are rare.Basically, Democrats had enough to convict him of violating house rules(which is not much), so they slammed him, who was a successful speaker of the house at the time.The IRS investigated the alleged tax violations, guess what? the IRS cleared him.The Republicans who vored against him, well he made enemies, esp after some seats were lost due to voter backlash over the attempted impeachment of Bill Clinton.

Newt's private life, well that is his business.So what if he had an affair? Humans have a right to be happy, obviously he was not happy with his first two wives, so he found another who he is apparently happy with.People get self righteous and say I would never blah blah, most of those are guys who could not do any better anyway. Newt was a hypocrite then to rail against Clinton for infidelity, but that was years ago and he was humbled by his loss of his position as speaker, reputation etc. Gingrich has made the point himself saying his perspective is different now, he's a grandfather, he's older etc, it makes sense.Honestly, who here has not made a mistake? Learned from it and moved on?

Choice boils down to this.An empty suit who is basically a liberal like Romney, who does not have the fighting spirit needed to defeat obama or someone who has demonstrated he can't be knocked out, who will absolutely own Obama in the debates.Sure, Newt will prob trail obama in the polls for a while, but once summer gas prices come in, he will call out obama on the keystone pipeline decision, he will point out his many, many failures and then demonstrate just what an empty suit obama really is.

Remember, the media said Reagan could not win and he did.They say the same about Newt, they have said he was dead twice already, well he is proving them wrong.

Don't agree on the facts? look it up.

[mookiemookie]

Another Gingrich thread??!!!??!




This is now an animated gif thread.

[mookiemookie]

Keep 'em coming Bubbles

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Keep 'em coming Bubbles

I will tribes, have to keep jobbernowls such as you informed of the truth.

Are you aiming for Glenn Becks job on the "truth"?
Did you get a chalkboard of conspiracy from santa

Please keep it up, you are priceless

[mookiemookie]

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Are you aiming for Glenn Becks job on the "truth"?
Did you get a chalkboard of conspiracy from santa

Please keep it up, you are priceless

Look forward to the day you can discuss and not try to insult, oh wait that will probably never come. Hmm no, not a fan of Beck and never been one on conspiracy. When you enemies control the investigation, you can not be shocked at the outcome, especially when Pelosi is involved.That is not conspiracy speak, that is just how it goes.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Newt's private life, well that is his business.So what if he had an affair? Humans have a right to be happy, obviously he was not happy with his first two wives, so he found another who he is apparently happy with.People get self righteous and say I would never blah blah, most of those are guys who could not do any better anyway. Newt was a hypocrite then to rail against Clinton for infidelity, but that was years ago and he was humbled by his loss of his position as speaker, reputation etc. Gingrich has made the point himself saying his perspective is different now, he's a grandfather, he's older etc, it makes sense.Honestly, who here has not made a mistake? Learned from it and moved on?

You're always saying that they've learned their lesson. After the 2008 election cycle, you said that the Republicans had learned their lesson. They were done with NeoConservatism. Gingrich is one of the leaders of the modern NeoConservative movement--an individual labeled a 'RINO' by many hardcore R's. 'New' Newt is just as spendy and hawkish as 'old' Newt; a throwback to 1994 and the policies that helped shape this financial meltdown. Clearly, Team R has not learned it's lessons, and Gingrich hasn't either. I'm not falling for it this time.

Reverting to old policy is not change. And adherence to the failed doctrine of 90's-style NeoConservatism does not offer me an improvement over Obama. I already have failure, either show me something new or don't get my vote.

[CaptainHaplo]

Face it Bubblehead - there are those who can't fathom anyone not supporting the Great Leader, eh no the Great Dunbo, no... oh yes the Great Golf Player - yea that is it. Anyone who wants to "cut government" has to be a radical. Anyone who suggests the poor should get a job instead of food stamps has to be a racist. Anyone who could take the "smartest man ever" and whip him in a debate must be a threat to the country - and thus must be stopped.

Facts are not things the left likes. Its also not something the "moderate" (read rino) team R folks like either.

Thankfully - as the people in SC just showed, including the Independants (who are the ones that really matter) that they prefer Gingrich over Romney. According to the NY Times - 33% went for Newt, while both Paul and Romney got ~ 25% each. It shows that even the Independants would prefer a Newt run than they would Mitt.

Course - the left FEARS Newt - absolutely NO ONE can make a case that Obama could beat Newt in a debate of ideas. No one can make the case that Obama can run on his record...

So what else do they have but personal attacks? Of course, we have seen that the politics of personal destruction are beginning to backfire. How long before the left learns that lesson?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/us...grich-win.html

Independents divided their support among Mr. Gingrich, who received about 3 in 10 of their votes, and Ron Paul and Mr. Romney, who each got about a quarter of their votes.

*Edited to include link and data

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Reverting to old policy is not change. And adherence to the failed doctrine of 90's-style NeoConservatism does not offer me an improvement over Obama. I already have failure, either show me something new or don't get my vote.

1990's Newt had to work with a center left president - and other than the .com bust (which neither congress nore the president were responsible for), the economy was not bad.

Reverting to 1980's Reaganism, proven to be effective, is however a vast improvement over the current situation.

Look forward to the day you can discuss and not try to insult

Bubbles , you do not discuss, you have a mind that is so closed and naive it is almost beyond belief.

But hey I am willing, try this for size.
In relation to your statement......
Well as a law student, I can attest ......
as a law student at a school where none of the teachers know anything about law, all the books on law are wrong and 99.999999999999999999999999% of the students are brainless inarticulate idiots who cannot even string a coherent sentence together doesn't that mean you yourself have totally disqualified any view you hold as "a law student"?

Hmm no, not a fan of Beck and never been one on conspiracy.

Oh bubbles , that is so sad, don't you even remember any of the nonense you have written

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

1990's Newt had to work with a center left president - and other than the .com bust (which neither congress nore the president were responsible for), the economy was not bad.

Reverting to 1980's Reaganism, proven to be effective, is however a vast improvement over the current situation.

Reaganism is the problem. The man started us on this suicidal path of deficit spending, free trade and belligerence in foreign policy. The 1980's are when the Republican party started to lose it's way, and the Cult of Reagan has been just as destructive to our nation as the radical left. Death by gunshot and death by drowning both result in the same thing. Don't try to tell me that one is better than the other.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Course - the left FEARS Newt

Oh here's this idea again. People criticize Newt Gingrich because they FEAR him. Wasn't that what they said about Palin, too? They make fun of her because they FEAR her.

Maybe people criticize him because he's a hypocrite? No? Well, whatever makes you feel good, I guess.

Face it Bubblehead - there are those who can't fathom anyone not supporting the Great Leader

There are those on both extremes who cannot fathom much at all.

Facts are not things the left likes. Its also not something the "moderate" (read rino) team R folks like either.

Facts are not something extremists like, need I remind you that you got some facts very wrong today in your political contributions?

Course - the left FEARS Newt - absolutely NO ONE can make a case that Obama could beat Newt in a debate of ideas. No one can make the case that Obama can run on his record...

CAPS LOCK strikes again
Hold on, your recent arguement was that "the left" feared the black man, are you simply making up rubbish as you go along?