Study says Aegis radar systems on the decline

kraznyi_oktjabr · 01-09-12, 05:12 AM

This thread is about Navy Time's article 5 July 2010. Its quite harsh report of U.S. Navy shape at the time. What you think about this? Have anything changed since then?

Quote:

The advanced radar systems aboard cruisers and destroyers are in their worst shape ever, according to an independent probe into Navy readiness, raising questions about the surface fleet***8217;s ability to take on its high-profile new mission next year defending Europe from ballistic missiles.

Poor training, impenetrable bureaucracy and cultural resignation have caused a spike in the number of technical problems and a dip in the operational performance of the Aegis system, considered the crown jewel of the U.S. surface force, according to members of a ***8220;fleet review panel***8221; tasked with assessing the surface fleet. And if that***8217;s the situation with Aegis ***8212; which includes warships***8217; iconic, hexagonal SPY-1 radar arrays ***8212; the panel wondered what that could mean for other, lower-profile equipment.

Here is the article

Rockstar · 01-09-12, 08:33 AM

Who knows what this 'Lifer Times' article is all about. If you ask me the National Equirer or Weekly World News have better stories. I know, maybe, just maybe the article was written by a spy in the hopes to get a response from Ageis users in order to guage the actual material condition of the system without actually having to sign up for four years, go to A School and get underway on a big hazey gray.

Catfish · 01-09-12, 08:37 AM

Have no fear,
in the unlikely event of a symmetric war happening,
England will be glad to help you out once more with Radar technology, like they did in 1942.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 01-09-12, 08:53 AM

Blogger's analysis (and ofcourse opinion its blog after all):
http://www.informationdissemination....le-report.html

and the original document:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/43245136/B...orce-Readiness

and latest readines report from USN:
http://www.navsea.navy.mil/teamships/Readiness/pdf/SEA21_Material_Readiness_Report_Final15Feb11 .pdf

EDIT: Alternate route to original document:
http://www.informationdissemination....le-report.html

Platapus · 01-09-12, 08:35 PM

When reading stories like this, I like to pull out the Old Analysts Credo -- Cui Bono (who benefits)

Who would benefit from this story coming out at this time?

All of the military is facing large budget cuts in the near future and the Navy is especially vulnerable. Now if only there was a special circumstance where the Navy could get more money..... Perhaps if an important warning system is on the fritz.... or people could be convinced that an important warning system is on the fritz and these people call their congressional representation.... wouldn't that be..... convenient.

Methinks we will be hearing more of these type of stories in the next few years.

The Military Industrial Complex is getting into full "yeah but" mode.

We need to cut spending

Yeah but xxx is really too important to cut now.

(profit)

Yeah, I am that cynical these days.

Skybird · 01-09-12, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

When reading stories like this, I like to pull out the Old Analysts Credo -- Cui Bono (who benefits)

Who would benefit from this story coming out at this time?

That was my first thought, too. But - the report is from summer 2010, one and a half year ago. And about growing bureaucracy and personnel drain there have been reports before, too.

That does not prove your idea is wrong. But both points also do not especially support it, but contradict it.

Anyway, the whiole military machine is terribly much greatere than what American can afford by own financial power. And as I said in some other thread, it leaves me with a dilemma, for I honestely have no answer what to do. Doing business as sual and all on tic, will spell disaster sooner or later. Shortening the military probbaly also will. And sicne America fter WWII never switchzed back to peace time production and thus allowed its economy depending and the profiteering people growing strong within the military, this has brought America very much into a dead end.

Solution? I have none. Maybe it just is meant to blow up.

nikimcbee · 01-09-12, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

When reading stories like this, I like to pull out the Old Analysts Credo -- Cui Bono (who benefits)

Who would benefit from this story coming out at this time?

All of the military is facing large budget cuts in the near future and the Navy is especially vulnerable. Now if only there was a special circumstance where the Navy could get more money..... Perhaps if an important warning system is on the fritz.... or people could be convinced that an important warning system is on the fritz and these people call their congressional representation.... wouldn't that be..... convenient.

Methinks we will be hearing more of these type of stories in the next few years.

The Military Industrial Complex is getting into full "yeah but" mode.

We need to cut spending

Yeah but xxx is really too important to cut now.

(profit)

Yeah, I am that cynical these days.

I think I did a thread on the subject over the summer. (What would you cut in the military budget?)

Sailor Steve · 01-09-12, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Have no fear,
in the unlikely event of a symmetric war happening,
England will be glad to help you out once more with Radar technology, like they did in 1942.

But how much help is England's 1942 radar technology going to be this time around?

Kongo Otto · 01-10-12, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But how much help is England's 1942 radar technology going to be this time around?

01-09-12, 08:53 AM	#4
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01-09-12, 08:35 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	When reading stories like this, I like to pull out the Old Analysts Credo -- Cui Bono (who benefits) Who would benefit from this story coming out at this time? All of the military is facing large budget cuts in the near future and the Navy is especially vulnerable. Now if only there was a special circumstance where the Navy could get more money..... Perhaps if an important warning system is on the fritz.... or people could be convinced that an important warning system is on the fritz and these people call their congressional representation.... wouldn't that be..... convenient. Methinks we will be hearing more of these type of stories in the next few years. The Military Industrial Complex is getting into full "yeah but" mode. We need to cut spending Yeah but xxx is really too important to cut now. (profit) Yeah, I am that cynical these days. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-09-12, 08:33 AM	#2
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Who knows what this 'Lifer Times' article is all about. If you ask me the National Equirer or Weekly World News have better stories. I know, maybe, just maybe the article was written by a spy in the hopes to get a response from Ageis users in order to guage the actual material condition of the system without actually having to sign up for four years, go to A School and get underway on a big hazey gray.

01-09-12, 08:37 AM	#3
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,765 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Have no fear, in the unlikely event of a symmetric war happening, England will be glad to help you out once more with Radar technology, like they did in 1942.