Lokking to upgrade my PC

BossMark · 08-06-11, 06:38 AM

In the very near future I am looking to upgrade my PC into a better gaming machine any advice as to what to do
Here a the parts I am wanting to upgrade
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Display Devices NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285
Sound Devices Creative SB X-Fi Audio

Feuer Frei! · 08-06-11, 10:13 AM

Well, like I tell everyone looking to upgrade:
Work out your budget first!
How much do you want to spend?
Then: What do you plan to do with the rig? You say gaming?
Only gaming? Or 3d apps, multi-media heavy apps?
Once you work that out, the rest will fall into place.
EDIT: No time like now to shamelessly plug my sticky at the top of this section.

If you are upgrading gfx, don't forget your PSU!

Arclight · 08-06-11, 02:49 PM

i5 2500K and a dual-channel 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 kit. Motherboard to plug it in to.

Think that that combined with what you have will work just fine for some time yet. Just upgrade the graphics card when needed.

Ah right, and a 64b DX11 OS, Win7 being the obvious choice.

BossMark · 08-07-11, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Well, like I tell everyone looking to upgrade:
Work out your budget first!
How much do you want to spend?
Then: What do you plan to do with the rig? You say gaming?
Only gaming? Or 3d apps, multi-media heavy apps?
Once you work that out, the rest will fall into place.
EDIT: No time like now to shamelessly plug my sticky at the top of this section.

If you are upgrading gfx, don't forget your PSU!

I have about £500 and I am looking at upgrading my motherboard, CPU, PSU memory and OS at the moment graphics card can come a bit later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

i5 2500K and a dual-channel 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 kit. Motherboard to plug it in to.

Think that that combined with what you have will work just fine for some time yet. Just upgrade the graphics card when needed.

Ah right, and a 64b DX11 OS, Win7 being the obvious choice.

Thanks been looking at these
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...atid=5&subcat=
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...atid=5&subcat=

Arclight · 08-07-11, 06:06 AM

Which is pretty much what I've been looking at, plus a Kingston DDR3, 1333MHz cas7 kit.

(though to be honest both bandwith and latency are completely irrelevant for these new i5s. Can just about throw anything in there and get the same performance, as far as gaming is concerned)

Decided to hold off on upgrading at least another year though.

gammaphialpha · 12-23-11, 10:33 AM

Intel Core i7-2600K
Geforce GTX 580
Asus Sabertooth x58
8-16GB RAM
1000-1500 watts PSU

Arclight · 12-23-11, 12:03 PM

An i7 for gaming and a x58 board for only 1 video card? Kind of a waste of money imho.

longam · 12-23-11, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossMark

In the very near future I am looking to upgrade my PC into a better gaming machine any advice as to what to do
Here a the parts I am wanting to upgrade
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Display Devices NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285
Sound Devices Creative SB X-Fi Audio

Had basically the same system and the mother board went out so I upgraded at Newegg with the following. Still using a directx 10 vedio card that I need to upgrade, and using windows 7 64bit.

Item 13-131-604 MB ASUS|P7P55 LX P55 1156 RT 1 $104.99

Item 19-115-220 CPU INTEL|CORE I5 650 3.2G 4M R 1 $174.99

Item 20-145-324 MEM 4Gx2|CORSAIR CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 R 1 $49.99

It runs every game with no problem.

CCIP · 12-23-11, 02:40 PM

And why on earth would you ever want an 1000-1500W PSU on a budget, normal-format PC?

You should play around with the wattage calculator and check your PSU specs to see if you need an upgrade at all. I recently 'downgraded' mine to a slightly older, lower-wattage CPU (because my 'new' one blew), and have only seen improvements as a result (my system tops out at an actual requirement of 380W, on a 420W PSU). http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

I'd also suggest that you actually give a video card upgrade another thought. IMO these days it's smarter to build gaming-oriented rigs around video cards rather than CPU/Motherboard like it used to be (i.e. that's the first thing you should decide on, and the part that you should consider matching the rest of your system to, since it can determine everything from motherboard type to required PSU power and cooling requirements). Depends on what you play of course, but more and more games are far more demanding on video cards these days than they are on CPU/RAM. If you ask me - a very fast, high-power processor is not a good investment if gaming is your main interest. Better to go with something affordable and solid - that i5 longam suggested may well serve your needs. And unless you're going to use your system for things like video production, 3D animation, and other things of that sort - 16+ GB of RAM is a waste; games or any other standard PC operation right now will never use more than a fraction of that. That will change over time, but right now... not worth it.

longam · 12-23-11, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

I'd also suggest that you actually give a video card upgrade another thought. IMO these days it's smarter to build gaming-oriented rigs around video cards rather than CPU/Motherboard like it used to be (i.e. that's the first thing you should decide on, and the part that you should consider matching the rest of your system to, since it can determine everything from motherboard type to required PSU power and cooling requirements). .

Other than power requirements and slot type, what possible requirements would you be talking about for a video card?

Always trying to learn and keep up.

CCIP · 12-23-11, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by longam

Other than power requirements and slot type, what possible requirements would you be talking about for a video card?

Maybe not 'requirements' per se, but it's wise to keep in mind things like cooling, case and motherboard size, and generally keeping the rest of your system on par with the video card. It's not smart to build PCs with obvious bottlenecks and potential cooling problems - sure they work, but they'll neither give you your money's worth in terms of performance, and might create a lot of headaches down the road.

longam · 12-23-11, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Maybe not 'requirements' per se, but it's wise to keep in mind things like cooling, case and motherboard size, and generally keeping the rest of your system on par with the video card. It's not smart to build PCs with obvious bottlenecks and potential cooling problems - sure they work, but they'll neither give you your money's worth in terms of performance, and might create a lot of headaches down the road.

Ah ok, my case is a high performance case so i knew I would have no problem down the road with cooling and power.

CCIP · 12-23-11, 03:01 PM

Yup! Really depends on your budget. If you can afford all the high-performance parts, go for it. But I also believe that you can build yourself a really excellent system on a tight budget, as long as you keep your goals in mind. IMO a good, affordable gaming system can do perfectly well without that 24GB RAM or 1500W PSU, and money you save that way can go to getting a video card that will make your system that much better

BossMark · 12-28-11, 03:05 AM

Just need a bit of advice on which would be the best PSU to run my Asus GTX 580 video card, my old PSU one is 3 and a half years old and as not got enough connectors to run the fans

08-06-11, 06:38 AM	#1
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	Lokking to upgrade my PC In the very near future I am looking to upgrade my PC into a better gaming machine any advice as to what to do Here a the parts I am wanting to upgrade Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2048MB RAM Display Devices NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 Sound Devices Creative SB X-Fi Audio __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now

08-06-11, 10:13 AM	#2
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Well, like I tell everyone looking to upgrade: Work out your budget first! How much do you want to spend? Then: What do you plan to do with the rig? You say gaming? Only gaming? Or 3d apps, multi-media heavy apps? Once you work that out, the rest will fall into place. EDIT: No time like now to shamelessly plug my sticky at the top of this section. If you are upgrading gfx, don't forget your PSU! __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

08-06-11, 02:49 PM	#3
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	i5 2500K and a dual-channel 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 kit. Motherboard to plug it in to. Think that that combined with what you have will work just fine for some time yet. Just upgrade the graphics card when needed. Ah right, and a 64b DX11 OS, Win7 being the obvious choice. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

08-07-11, 06:06 AM	#5
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Which is pretty much what I've been looking at, plus a Kingston DDR3, 1333MHz cas7 kit. (though to be honest both bandwith and latency are completely irrelevant for these new i5s. Can just about throw anything in there and get the same performance, as far as gaming is concerned) Decided to hold off on upgrading at least another year though. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-23-11, 12:03 PM	#7
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	An i7 for gaming and a x58 board for only 1 video card? Kind of a waste of money imho. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-23-11, 10:33 AM	#6
gammaphialpha Watch Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Intel Core i7-2600K Geforce GTX 580 Asus Sabertooth x58 8-16GB RAM 1000-1500 watts PSU

12-23-11, 02:40 PM	#9
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	And why on earth would you ever want an 1000-1500W PSU on a budget, normal-format PC? You should play around with the wattage calculator and check your PSU specs to see if you need an upgrade at all. I recently 'downgraded' mine to a slightly older, lower-wattage CPU (because my 'new' one blew), and have only seen improvements as a result (my system tops out at an actual requirement of 380W, on a 420W PSU). http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp I'd also suggest that you actually give a video card upgrade another thought. IMO these days it's smarter to build gaming-oriented rigs around video cards rather than CPU/Motherboard like it used to be (i.e. that's the first thing you should decide on, and the part that you should consider matching the rest of your system to, since it can determine everything from motherboard type to required PSU power and cooling requirements). Depends on what you play of course, but more and more games are far more demanding on video cards these days than they are on CPU/RAM. If you ask me - a very fast, high-power processor is not a good investment if gaming is your main interest. Better to go with something affordable and solid - that i5 longam suggested may well serve your needs. And unless you're going to use your system for things like video production, 3D animation, and other things of that sort - 16+ GB of RAM is a waste; games or any other standard PC operation right now will never use more than a fraction of that. That will change over time, but right now... not worth it. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-23-11, 03:01 PM	#13
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yup! Really depends on your budget. If you can afford all the high-performance parts, go for it. But I also believe that you can build yourself a really excellent system on a tight budget, as long as you keep your goals in mind. IMO a good, affordable gaming system can do perfectly well without that 24GB RAM or 1500W PSU, and money you save that way can go to getting a video card that will make your system that much better __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-28-11, 03:05 AM	#14
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	Just need a bit of advice on which would be the best PSU to run my Asus GTX 580 video card, my old PSU one is 3 and a half years old and as not got enough connectors to run the fans __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now