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Old 10-02-11, 10:50 AM   #1
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Hundreds of Occupy Wall Street protesters arrested

Demonstrator Henry-James Ferry: "'The police moved in with orange mesh barricade". Footage courtesy Robert Cammiso.

More than 700 people from the Occupy Wall Street protest movement have been arrested on New York's City's Brooklyn Bridge, police say.

They were part of a larger group crossing the bridge from Manhattan, where they have been camped out near Wall Street for two weeks.

Some entered the bridge's roadway and were met by a large police presence and detained, most for disorderly conduct.

The loosely-organised group is protesting against corporate greed.

They say they are defending 99% of the US population against the wealthiest 1%.

Occupy Wall Street called for 20,000 people to "flood into lower Manhattan" on 17 September and remain there for "a few months".

Several hundred remain camped at Zuccotti Park, a privately owned area of land not far from Wall Street.

A police spokesman quoted by Reuters said the arrests came "after multiple warnings by police were given to protesters to stay on the pedestrian walkway".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15140671


Note: 2 October 2011 Last updated at 06:26 GMT
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Old 10-03-11, 07:40 AM   #2
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It looks like the biggest jaywalking incident in history
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Old 10-03-11, 09:09 AM   #3
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Good for them, it is entering it's 3rd week and the media can't ignore it anymore. It is our right to demand better governance.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ***8212; That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ***8212; That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
-Excerpt from the American Declaration of independance.

As of now corporations and banks hold too much sway over Americas political system, citizens are systematically ignored by our so called "representatives" in favor of moneyed interest.

More should stand up, I sent 5 pizzas down there yesterday, it's small but I'm sure quite a few were grateful.

Maybe the media will stop calling them dirty hippies like they did to the Vietnam protesters, they are college students, war veterans, blue collar workers who watched thier pensions evaporate. They are PEOPLE standing up for thier rights as human beings.

Edit:On a side note today they are marching to City hall to let Bloomberg (the same owners of Bloomberg news, and Wall street billionaire) know this isn't ending. And look up Anthony Bologna (Tony Boloney) on you tube, and see how a supervisor rushed to mace peaceful protesters.

Bought and paid for by Mayor Bloombergs Billions.
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Old 10-03-11, 09:42 AM   #5
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on one hand, by arresting them you are infringing on their right of peaceful protest

on the other hand, they are infringing on other's right of free movement
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These jaywalkers were not arrested because they were protesting therefore their rights were not trampled. They were arrested for jaywalking and impeding the flow of traffic. They should do time and be put to work painting the bridge and sweeping streets
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These jaywalkers should do time and be put to work painting the bridge and sweeping streets
I guess that means you already have yours, and don't care that Wall Street lost what was everyone elses (and still got phat bonuses at the end of the day, thanks to people like me who pay taxes to bail them out, and barely get by).

This Wall street mess affects the world. I'm glad your happy in your hamlet, but a large percentage of us are not happy in our cardboard box.
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I like this guy, his critical of his goverment

And Rockstar is also right they could have costed someone elses job for making them late for work. But I also wonder, would the police be so vigilant in their arrests if the protests werent aimed at their corporate overlords
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I like this guy, his critical of his goverment

And Rockstar is also right they could have costed someone elses job for making them late for work. But I also wonder, would the police be so vigilant in their arrests if the protests werent aimed at their corporate overlords
Bingo! as Hans Landa said.

The mayor of New York City is Micheal Bloomberg, a man who made his fortune on Wall Street, also the owner of Bloomberg News. 2 plus 2 is 4, unless your on Wall Street, then 2 plus 2 is whatever you can fool someone into thinking it is.
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Bingo! as Hans Landa said.

The mayor of New York City is Micheal Bloomberg, a man who made his fortune on Wall Street, also the owner of Bloomberg News. 2 plus 2 is 4, unless your on Wall Street, then 2 plus 2 is whatever you can fool someone into thinking it is.
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I'd be surprised if that protest has any effect, or isn't snuffed out in one way or another. Money equals power, and wall street has lots of it. I think constitutional right's won't make much of difference in our system with it's many loopholes.
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Small busineses that are the bright star of capitalism will suffer when rioting begins, big business will bunker down and wait until it everything dies down and damage will be done to the ones that suffer the most because of the reasons this protests began.
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I'd be surprised if that protest has any effect, or isn't snuffed out in one way or another. Money equals power, and wall street has lots of it. I think constitutional right's won't make much of difference in our system with it's many loopholes.
I don't think any of the protesters have any illusions of changing the system overnight. But it's a start. These people have decided that the status quo isn't good enough and that it's an unfair system that exploits people to line the pockets of the rich and powerful.

Don't think for a minute that common people coming together can't change things. The labor movement of the early 20th century, the civil rights movement, the Vietnam war protests - they were all about the little people getting in the face of those in power, and yes, people are going to be arrested for doing it. Yes, the police will try and crack down on it. But if they didn't could it really be called civil disobedience?

That's why the Tea Party was the joke that it was. It was astroturfing and its agenda set by the wealthy and those in power. It was a costume party and nothing more.

I'm all for anything that sticks it to the Corporatocracy. This country is being taken from us, and some rubes think its being taken by the immigrants or the socialists or the environmentalists or whatever boogeyman those in power want you to think it is, just so you don't realize that it's them doing the taking.

And there's my political grandstanding soapbox moment for the day.
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I'd be surprised if that protest has any effect, or isn't snuffed out in one way or another. Money equals power, and wall street has lots of it. I think constitutional right's won't make much of difference in our system with it's many loopholes.
yes sir Ducimus. That is my fear. We want a better country and world for all, ruled by fairness in law for everyone. If a business messes up and fails, then it dies. That is how capitalism is supposed to work. not to be bailed out, then raise fees on debit cards like Bank of America did. And not loan after being given close to zero percent interest by the federal reserve. They took that money to play the stock market with, rather than lend to small business. (small business is where a massive majority of employment comes from)


The privatize the profits, and socialize the losses thing is why they are out there. It's not fair for the struggling to pay for the excesses of the sloppy bankers.

You all in Europe are paying for Wall Streets profligacy too, this garbage with the Euro and Greece is an indirect result of people playing war games with money.

It's not just America who has to gain from this protest. And it is in more cities than just New York at this point.
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Yep, everyone ignores protestors... until they have a riot, not that that works either, since the orginal protest message gets drowned in condemnation of the violence.

Anyway its too late, all im hearing now are alarm bells to stock up on supplies and secure assets because we are on the brink of a global economic meltdown that will make 2008 look like a picnic.
Plus we have solar flares and a possible polar shift.... on paper 2012 is looking to be a very crappy year indeed
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